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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@parallels.com>,
	Ricky Zhou <rickyz@chromium.org>, Julien Tinnes <jln@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] unshare: Unsharing a thread does not require unsharing a vm
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:27:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbcjtapu.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150813161718.GA23114@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Thu, 13 Aug 2015 18:17:18 +0200")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:

> On 08/13, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> The only way killing CLONE_SIGHAND would be viable would be with a
>> config option.  There are entire generations of linux where libpthreads
>> used this before CLONE_THREAD was implemented.  Now perhaps no one cares
>> anymore, but there are a lot of historic binairies that used it, even to
>> the point where I know of at least one user outside of glibc's pthread
>> implementation.
>
> Heh. so we still need to keep it. Thanks.

Pretty much. It is possible to make this stuff go away when people stop
caring but it is a long process.  I think I have almost killed
sys_sysctl.  It seems to be disabled in most distributions.

>> Yes.  A shared sighand_struct will have a shared ->mm.  But a private
>> sighand_struct with count == 1 may also have a shared ->mm.
>
> Yes sure. This just means that we can check current_is_single_threaded()
> if CLONE_SIGHAND | CLONE_VM, signal->count check can be avoided.

As I pointed out in my follow we really can't because there is a case
where mm_users > 1 and sighand_count == 1.  In which case using
current_is_single_threaded can cause unshare(SIGHAND) to fail.

>> So while I agree with you that the sighand->count could suffer a similar
>> fate as mm_users it does not.
>
> Ignoring the out-of-tree code ;)
>
> Nevermind, I won't really argue, this all is mostly cosmetic. And perhaps
> this sighand->count check in check_unshare_flags() makes this code look
> a bit better / more understandable.
>
> Still. How about the trivial *-fix.patch for -mm which simply does
>
> 	-	if (unshare_flags & (CLONE_SIGHAND | CLONE_VM)) {
> 	+	if (unshare_flags & CLONE_SIGHAND) {
> 			if (atomic_read(&current->sighand->count) > 1)
> 				return -EINVAL;
> 		}
>
> again, this doesn't really matter. To this "| CLONE_VM" looks
> very confusing to me.

Definitely cosmetic.  This was my preserving of your flattened test
argument in around mm_users > 1  in check_unshare_flags().

It is unncessary given that we add CLONE_SIGHAND when CLONE_VM.
But to have a private mm_struct you definitely need a sighand_struct.

In the sense of document when these tests apply I think it makes a
teensy bit of sense to have the CLONE_VM there.  But if you want to send
me a cosmetic patch that removes that I will add it to my tree, with the
other two patches.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-28 17:15 [PATCH] user_ns: use correct check for single-threadedness Kees Cook
2015-07-28 18:02 ` Rik van Riel
2015-07-28 18:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-07-28 20:55   ` Ricky Zhou
2015-07-28 21:01     ` Kees Cook
2015-08-05 18:13       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-05 19:40         ` Kees Cook
2015-07-28 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2015-07-28 21:50   ` Kees Cook
2015-07-28 22:11   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-05 11:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-08-05 11:53       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-08-05 13:13         ` Ricky Zhou
2015-08-05 17:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-05 18:00       ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-05 18:52         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-06 13:06           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-06 13:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-12  1:17               ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12 14:40                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-12 15:11                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12  1:22               ` [PATCH 0/2] userns: Creation logic fixes Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12  1:24                 ` [PATCH 1/2] unshare: Unsharing a thread does not require unsharing a vm Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12 17:48                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-12 18:39                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-13 12:55                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-13 15:38                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-13 16:17                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-13 16:27                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2015-08-13 16:50                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-14 17:59                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-12 19:59                     ` [PATCH v2] " Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-13 12:57                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-13 16:01                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-13 16:30                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-13 16:39                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12  1:25                 ` [PATCH 2/2] userns,pidns: Force thread group sharing, not signal handler sharing Eric W. Biederman
2015-08-12 17:24                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-12  6:29                 ` [PATCH 0/2] userns: Creation logic fixes Kees Cook
2015-08-06 14:35           ` [PATCH] user_ns: use correct check for single-threadedness Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-06 21:16             ` Eric W. Biederman

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