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From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	"SERGE E. HALLYN [imap]" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	frankeh@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:29:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87veym7vb3.fsf@amaterasu.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051119233010.GA3361@spitz.ucw.cz> (Pavel Machek's message of "20 Nov 2005 08:17:48 -0000")

On 20 Nov 2005, Pavel Machek stated:
> Hi!
>> I also hate bloating types and making them sparse just for the hell of
>> it.  It is seriously demoralizing to do a ps and see
>> 7011827128432950176177290 staring back at you. :)
> 
> Well, doing cat /var/something/foo.pid, and seeing pid of unrelated process
> is wrong, too... especially if you try to kill it....

I'd venture to say that anything using multiple pid namespaces should be
mounting its own private /var/run subtree (and similar for other such
directories). Consider it as similar to the problem of colliding PIDs on
multiple physical hosts, or on a host and a pile of UMLs it's running:
the solution there, too, is to unshare /var/run (by not NFS-exporting it
in the latter two cases, by private mounts in the former).

(Isn't this PID namespace stuff meant for chroots anyway?)

-- 
`Y'know, London's nice at this time of year. If you like your cities
 freezing cold and full of surly gits.' --- David Damerell


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-20 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-14 21:23 [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 01/13] Change pid accesses: drivers Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 02/13] Change pid accesses: most archs Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 03/13] Change pid accesses: filesystems Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 04/13] Change pid accesses: include/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 05/13] Change pid accesses: ipc Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 06/13] Change pid accesses: kernel/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 07/13] Change pid accesses: lib/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 08/13] Change pid accesses: mm/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 09/13] Change pid accesses: net/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 10/13] Change pid accesses: security/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 11/13] Change pid accesses: sound/ Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 12/13] Change pid accesses: ia64 and mips Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 23:08   ` Keith Owens
2005-11-16 11:58     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-16 13:53     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 21:23 ` [RFC] [PATCH 13/13] Define new task_pid api Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-14 23:36 ` [RFC] [PATCH 00/13] Introduce " Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  1:01   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  1:35     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  1:51     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  2:29       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  3:37         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  5:15           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  6:35             ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15  8:11               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15  9:06                 ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 10:07                   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 18:10                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 11:59                   ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 13:32                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 14:37                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 18:39                       ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 18:54                         ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 19:00                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 19:17                     ` Hubertus Franke
2005-11-15 22:11                     ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 23:15                       ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-15 23:28                         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 16:47             ` Greg KH
2005-11-15 17:08               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 17:33               ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15  5:51   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-13 15:22     ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 19:36       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-11-16 20:36         ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-16 20:48           ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-19 23:30             ` Pavel Machek
2005-11-20 22:38               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 14:53                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-20 23:29               ` Nix [this message]
2005-11-16 21:07           ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-16 20:24       ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 13:34   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 11:17 ` Robin Holt
2005-11-15 12:01   ` Dave Hansen
2005-11-15 19:21 ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 19:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 20:30     ` Ray Bryant
2005-11-15 21:05       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-11-15 22:43         ` Paul Jackson
2005-11-15 22:55       ` Cedric Le Goater
2005-11-16  1:12         ` Paul Jackson
2005-12-07 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 17:47   ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 17:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 18:09       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 19:00         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-07 19:42           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 22:13           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:20             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-12 10:55               ` Dave Airlie
2005-12-19 14:04                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 19:19     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-07 21:40       ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:17         ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-12-14 15:23           ` Pavel Machek
2005-12-14 13:40             ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-14 16:29               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2005-12-07 22:31           ` Dave Hansen
2005-12-07 22:51             ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-08  5:42             ` Jeff Dike
2005-12-08 10:09             ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-07 22:17       ` Cedric Le Goater
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-11-16  2:24 Hua Zhong (hzhong)
2005-11-16 17:52 ` Bernard Blackham

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