From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266221AbUHSO2B (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:01 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266224AbUHSO2B (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:28:01 -0400 Received: from hirsch.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.6]:14814 "EHLO hirsch.in-berlin.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266221AbUHSO16 (ORCPT ); Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:27:58 -0400 X-Envelope-From: kraxel@bytesex.org To: Joerg Schilling Cc: kernel@wildsau.enemy.org, diablod3@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: PATCH: cdrecord: avoiding scsi device numbering for ide devices References: <200408041233.i74CX93f009939@wildsau.enemy.org> <4124A024.nail7X62HZNBB@burner> From: Gerd Knorr Organization: SUSE Labs, Berlin Date: 19 Aug 2004 16:14:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4124A024.nail7X62HZNBB@burner> Message-ID: <87vfffp64y.fsf@bytesex.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Joerg Schilling writes: > >If no one has noticed yet, thanks to the additional license > >restrictions Joerg Schilling has added to cdrecord (due to this > >thread), it may be now moved to non-free in Debian in the near future. > > Your statement "it may be now moved to non-free in Debian in the near future" > is just complete nonsense. It's not. > Of course, I am in discussions with Debian people about the best > method to force SuSE not to publish broken versions of cdrtools in > the future. Just read the Debian Free Software Guidelines. You can't do that if you want cdrecord stay in main and not go to non-free. See paragraph #3 of DFSG: "The license must allow modifications and derived works" and paragraph #8: "License Must Not Be Specific to Debian". Also note #5: "No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups". > The GPL requires you not to impact the original authors' > reputations, but this is what SuSE is doing by publishing defective > variants. Those "defective variants" (which are NOT defective for me) clearly state that they are *not* the original version and problems/bugs should be reported to suse (as suggested by the GPL paragraph you are refering to). An it's not somewhere hidden, but printed every single time you start it to the terminal, four lines long. Gerd -- return -ENOSIG;