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From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	tux3@tux3.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Optimize wait_sb_inodes()
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:14:07 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqpg76ls.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130626231143.GC28426@dastard> (Dave Chinner's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:11:43 +1000")

Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> writes:

>> On another view, wait_sb_inodes() would (arguably) be necessary for
>> legacy FSes. But, for example, if data=journal on ext*, wait_sb_inodes()
>> would be more than useless, because ext* can be done it by own
>> transaction list (and more efficient way).
>> 
>> Likewise, on tux3, the state is same with data=journal.
>> 
>> Also, even if data=ordered, ext* might be able to check in-flight I/O by
>> ordered data list (with some new additional check, I'm not sure).
>
> Why would you bother solving this problem differently in every
> single filesystem? It's solvable at the VFS by tracking inodes that
> are no longer dirty but still under writeback on the BDI. Then
> converting wait_sb_inodes() to walk all the dirty and writeback
> inodes would be sufficient for data integrity purposes, and it would
> be done under the bdi writeback lock, not the inode_sb_list_lock....
>
> Alternatively, splitting up the inode sb list and lock (say via the
> per-node list_lru structures in -mm and -next that are being added
> for exactly this purpose) would also significantly reduce lock
> contention on both the create/evict fast paths and the
> wait_sb_inodes() walk that is currently done....
>
> So I think that you should address the problem properly at the VFS
> level so everyone benefits, not push interfaces that allow
> filesystem specific hacks to work around VFS level deficiencies...

Optimizing wait_sb_inodes() might help lock contention, but it doesn't
help unnecessary wait/check. Since some FSes know about current
in-flight I/O already in those internal, so I think, those FSes can be
done it here, or are already doing in ->sync_fs().

For example, I guess ext4 implement (untested) would be something like
following. If ->sync_fs() does all, ext4 doesn't need to be bothered by
wait_sb_inodes().

static void ext4_wait_inodes(struct super_block *sb)
{
	/* ->sync_fs() guarantees to wait all */
	if (test_opt(inode->i_sb, DATA_FLAGS) == EXT4_MOUNT_JOURNAL_DATA)
        	return;

	/* FIXME: On data=ordered, we might be able to avoid this too. */
	wait_sb_inodes(sb);
}

Thanks.
-- 
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-27  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-26  8:45 [PATCH] Optimize wait_sb_inodes() OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-26 14:32 ` Jörn Engel
2013-06-27  0:01   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-26 23:11 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27  0:14   ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2013-06-27  4:47     ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27  5:18       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27  6:38         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27  7:22           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27  9:40             ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 10:06               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 18:36                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-27 23:37                   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 23:45                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-28  0:30                       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-28  5:23                         ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28  7:39                           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-28  3:00                   ` Daniel Phillips
2013-06-27  7:22         ` Daniel Phillips
2013-06-27  5:50       ` Daniel Phillips

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