From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
tux3@tux3.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Optimize wait_sb_inodes()
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:14:07 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wqpg76ls.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130626231143.GC28426@dastard> (Dave Chinner's message of "Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:11:43 +1000")
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> writes:
>> On another view, wait_sb_inodes() would (arguably) be necessary for
>> legacy FSes. But, for example, if data=journal on ext*, wait_sb_inodes()
>> would be more than useless, because ext* can be done it by own
>> transaction list (and more efficient way).
>>
>> Likewise, on tux3, the state is same with data=journal.
>>
>> Also, even if data=ordered, ext* might be able to check in-flight I/O by
>> ordered data list (with some new additional check, I'm not sure).
>
> Why would you bother solving this problem differently in every
> single filesystem? It's solvable at the VFS by tracking inodes that
> are no longer dirty but still under writeback on the BDI. Then
> converting wait_sb_inodes() to walk all the dirty and writeback
> inodes would be sufficient for data integrity purposes, and it would
> be done under the bdi writeback lock, not the inode_sb_list_lock....
>
> Alternatively, splitting up the inode sb list and lock (say via the
> per-node list_lru structures in -mm and -next that are being added
> for exactly this purpose) would also significantly reduce lock
> contention on both the create/evict fast paths and the
> wait_sb_inodes() walk that is currently done....
>
> So I think that you should address the problem properly at the VFS
> level so everyone benefits, not push interfaces that allow
> filesystem specific hacks to work around VFS level deficiencies...
Optimizing wait_sb_inodes() might help lock contention, but it doesn't
help unnecessary wait/check. Since some FSes know about current
in-flight I/O already in those internal, so I think, those FSes can be
done it here, or are already doing in ->sync_fs().
For example, I guess ext4 implement (untested) would be something like
following. If ->sync_fs() does all, ext4 doesn't need to be bothered by
wait_sb_inodes().
static void ext4_wait_inodes(struct super_block *sb)
{
/* ->sync_fs() guarantees to wait all */
if (test_opt(inode->i_sb, DATA_FLAGS) == EXT4_MOUNT_JOURNAL_DATA)
return;
/* FIXME: On data=ordered, we might be able to avoid this too. */
wait_sb_inodes(sb);
}
Thanks.
--
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-06-27 0:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-26 8:45 [PATCH] Optimize wait_sb_inodes() OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-26 14:32 ` Jörn Engel
2013-06-27 0:01 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-26 23:11 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 0:14 ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2013-06-27 4:47 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 5:18 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 6:38 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 7:22 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 9:40 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-27 10:06 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 18:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-27 23:37 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-27 23:45 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-06-28 0:30 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-28 5:23 ` Dave Chinner
2013-06-28 7:39 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-06-28 3:00 ` Daniel Phillips
2013-06-27 7:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2013-06-27 5:50 ` Daniel Phillips
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