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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Carlos O'Donell" <carlos@redhat.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Florian Weimer" <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Rich Felker" <dalias@aerifal.cx>,
	"Torvald Riegel" <triegel@redhat.com>,
	"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/8] futex: Provide infrastructure to plug the non contended robust futex unlock race
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2026 21:29:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y0jro6v5.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03f563a3-caaa-4b72-bedb-b2b2a316b545@efficios.com>

On Mon, Mar 16 2026 at 14:35, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> On 2026-03-16 13:13, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> When the FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK mechanism is used for unlocking (PI-)futexes,
>> then the unlock sequence in user space looks like this:
>> 
>>    1)	robust_list_set_op_pending(mutex);
>>    2)	robust_list_remove(mutex);
>> 	
>>    	lval = gettid();
>>    3)	if (atomic_try_cmpxchg(&mutex->lock, lval, 0))
>>    4)		robust_list_clear_op_pending();
>>    	else
>>    5)		sys_futex(OP | FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK, ....);
>> 
>> That still leaves a minimal race window between #3 and #4 where the mutex
>> could be acquired by some other task, which observes that it is the last
>> user and:
>> 
>>    1) unmaps the mutex memory
>>    2) maps a different file, which ends up covering the same address
>> 
>> When then the original task exits before reaching #6 then the kernel robust
>
> "... before reaching #4 ...".
>
> [...]
>
>> 
>> As this is only relevant when the task was interrupted in user space, this
>> is tied to RSEQ and the generic entry code as RSEQ keeps track of user
>> space interrupts unconditionally even if the task does not have a RSEQ
>> region installed. That makes the decision very lightweight:
>> 
>>         if (current->rseq.user_irq && within(regs, unlock_ip_range))
>>         		futex_fixup_robust_unlock(regs);
>
> Nice trick to re-use the rseq infra, but where is the added dependency
> on CONFIG_RSEQ=y ?

Here:

 +config FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK
 +       def_bool FUTEX && HAVE_GENERIC_VDSO && GENERIC_IRQ_ENTRY && RSEQ && HAVE_FUTEX_ROBUST_UNLOCK


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-16 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-16 17:12 [patch 0/8] futex: Address the robust futex unlock race for real Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:12 ` [patch 1/8] futex: Move futex task related data into a struct Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:55   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17  2:24   ` André Almeida
2026-03-17  9:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 2/8] futex: Move futex related mm_struct " Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:00   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 3/8] futex: Provide UABI defines for robust list entry modifiers Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:02   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17  2:38   ` André Almeida
2026-03-17  9:53     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 4/8] futex: Add support for unlocking robust futexes Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:24   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 16:17   ` André Almeida
2026-03-17 20:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-17 22:40       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18  8:02         ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-18  8:06           ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-18 14:47           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-18 16:03             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 5/8] futex: Add robust futex unlock IP range Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-17 19:19   ` André Almeida
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 6/8] futex: Provide infrastructure to plug the non contended robust futex unlock race Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 18:35   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 20:29     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-03-16 20:52       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 7/8] x86/vdso: Prepare for robust futex unlock support Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 17:13 ` [patch 8/8] x86/vdso: Implement __vdso_futex_robust_try_unlock() Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 19:19   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 21:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 22:35       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-03-16 21:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-16 21:29     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17  7:25   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-17  9:51     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 11:17       ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-18 16:17         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-19  7:41           ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19  8:53             ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-19  9:04               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19  9:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-19 23:31                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-19 10:36             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-19 10:49               ` Thomas Weißschuh
2026-03-19 10:55                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-03-17  8:28   ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-17  9:36     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 10:37       ` Florian Weimer
2026-03-17 22:32         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 22:08           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18 22:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-19  2:05             ` André Almeida
2026-03-19  7:10               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-17 15:33   ` Uros Bizjak
2026-03-18  8:21     ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-03-18  8:32       ` Uros Bizjak

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