From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
"Lorenzo Stoakes" <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 8/8] task: rust: rework how current is accessed
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2025 09:42:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y0zk9y4h.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH5fLgiBsW-sZ8LW4aqK1Eux71qdB3ERr6RdE3gX2uka+GRrew@mail.gmail.com> (Alice Ryhl's message of "Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:32:28 +0100")
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
> On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 3:51 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com> writes:
>> > +impl CurrentTask {
>> > + /// Access the address space of the current task.
>> > + ///
>> > + /// This function does not touch the refcount of the mm.
>> > + #[inline]
>> > + pub fn mm(&self) -> Option<&MmWithUser> {
>> > + // SAFETY: The `mm` field of `current` is not modified from other threads, so reading it is
>> > + // not a data race.
>> > + let mm = unsafe { (*self.as_ptr()).mm };
>> > +
>> > + if mm.is_null() {
>> > + return None;
>> > + }
>> > +
>> > + // SAFETY: If `current->mm` is non-null, then it references a valid mm with a non-zero
>> > + // value of `mm_users`. Furthermore, the returned `&MmWithUser` borrows from this
>> > + // `CurrentTask`, so it cannot escape the scope in which the current pointer was obtained.
>> > + //
>> > + // This is safe even if `kthread_use_mm()`/`kthread_unuse_mm()` are used. There are two
>> > + // relevant cases:
>> > + // * If the `&CurrentTask` was created before `kthread_use_mm()`, then it cannot be
>> > + // accessed during the `kthread_use_mm()`/`kthread_unuse_mm()` scope due to the
>> > + // `NotThreadSafe` field of `CurrentTask`.
>> > + // * If the `&CurrentTask` was created within a `kthread_use_mm()`/`kthread_unuse_mm()`
>> > + // scope, then the `&CurrentTask` cannot escape that scope, so the returned `&MmWithUser`
>> > + // also cannot escape that scope.
>> > + // In either case, it's not possible to read `current->mm` and keep using it after the
>> > + // scope is ended with `kthread_unuse_mm()`.
>>
>> I guess we don't actually need the last section until we see
>> `ktread_use_mm` / `kthread_unuse_mm` abstractions in tree?
>
> I mean, there could be such a scope in C code that called into Rust?
👍
>> > + Some(unsafe { MmWithUser::from_raw(mm) })
>> > + }
>> > +
>> > + /// Access the pid namespace of the current task.
>>
>> Is it an address space or a memory map(ping)? Can we use consistent vocabulary?
>
> Neither. It's a pid namespace which has nothing to do with address
> spaces or memory mappings. This part of this patch is moving an
> existing abstraction to work with the reworked way to access current.
Sorry, not sure what I was talking about here. I feel like this comment
landed in the wrong place 😬
I remember taking note of the use of VMA, memory map, address space all
over the place. I object to "VMA" and would rather have it spelled out
in documentation.
>
>> > + ///
>> > + /// This function does not touch the refcount of the namespace or use RCU protection.
>> > + #[doc(alias = "task_active_pid_ns")]
>>
>> What is with the alias?
>
> This is the Rust equivalent to the C function called
> task_active_pid_ns. The alias makes it easier to find it.
Cool.
>
>> > + #[inline]
>> > + pub fn active_pid_ns(&self) -> Option<&PidNamespace> {
>> > + // SAFETY: It is safe to call `task_active_pid_ns` without RCU protection when calling it
>> > + // on the current task.
>> > + let active_ns = unsafe { bindings::task_active_pid_ns(self.as_ptr()) };
>> > +
>> > + if active_ns.is_null() {
>> > + return None;
>> > + }
>> > +
>> > + // The lifetime of `PidNamespace` is bound to `Task` and `struct pid`.
>> > + //
>> > + // The `PidNamespace` of a `Task` doesn't ever change once the `Task` is alive. A
>> > + // `unshare(CLONE_NEWPID)` or `setns(fd_pidns/pidfd, CLONE_NEWPID)` will not have an effect
>> > + // on the calling `Task`'s pid namespace. It will only effect the pid namespace of children
>> > + // created by the calling `Task`. This invariant guarantees that after having acquired a
>> > + // reference to a `Task`'s pid namespace it will remain unchanged.
>> > + //
>> > + // When a task has exited and been reaped `release_task()` will be called. This will set
>> > + // the `PidNamespace` of the task to `NULL`. So retrieving the `PidNamespace` of a task
>> > + // that is dead will return `NULL`. Note, that neither holding the RCU lock nor holding a
>> > + // referencing count to the `Task` will prevent `release_task()` being called.
>> > + //
>> > + // In order to retrieve the `PidNamespace` of a `Task` the `task_active_pid_ns()` function
>> > + // can be used. There are two cases to consider:
>> > + //
>> > + // (1) retrieving the `PidNamespace` of the `current` task
>> > + // (2) retrieving the `PidNamespace` of a non-`current` task
>> > + //
>> > + // From system call context retrieving the `PidNamespace` for case (1) is always safe and
>> > + // requires neither RCU locking nor a reference count to be held. Retrieving the
>> > + // `PidNamespace` after `release_task()` for current will return `NULL` but no codepath
>> > + // like that is exposed to Rust.
>> > + //
>> > + // Retrieving the `PidNamespace` from system call context for (2) requires RCU protection.
>> > + // Accessing `PidNamespace` outside of RCU protection requires a reference count that
>> > + // must've been acquired while holding the RCU lock. Note that accessing a non-`current`
>> > + // task means `NULL` can be returned as the non-`current` task could have already passed
>> > + // through `release_task()`.
>> > + //
>> > + // To retrieve (1) the `&CurrentTask` type should be used which ensures that the returned
>> > + // `PidNamespace` cannot outlive the current task context. The `CurrentTask::active_pid_ns`
>> > + // function allows Rust to handle the common case of accessing `current`'s `PidNamespace`
>> > + // without RCU protection and without having to acquire a reference count.
>> > + //
>> > + // For (2) the `task_get_pid_ns()` method must be used. This will always acquire a
>> > + // reference on `PidNamespace` and will return an `Option` to force the caller to
>> > + // explicitly handle the case where `PidNamespace` is `None`, something that tends to be
>> > + // forgotten when doing the equivalent operation in `C`. Missing RCU primitives make it
>> > + // difficult to perform operations that are otherwise safe without holding a reference
>> > + // count as long as RCU protection is guaranteed. But it is not important currently. But we
>> > + // do want it in the future.
>> > + //
>> > + // Note for (2) the required RCU protection around calling `task_active_pid_ns()`
>> > + // synchronizes against putting the last reference of the associated `struct pid` of
>> > + // `task->thread_pid`. The `struct pid` stored in that field is used to retrieve the
>> > + // `PidNamespace` of the caller. When `release_task()` is called `task->thread_pid` will be
>> > + // `NULL`ed and `put_pid()` on said `struct pid` will be delayed in `free_pid()` via
>> > + // `call_rcu()` allowing everyone with an RCU protected access to the `struct pid` acquired
>> > + // from `task->thread_pid` to finish.
>>
>> While this comment is a nice piece of documentation, I think we should
>> move it elsewhere, or restrict it to paragraphs pertaining to (1), since
>> that is the only case we consider here?
>
> Where would you move it?
The info about (2) should probably be with the implementation for that
case, when it lands. Perhaps we can move it hen?
>
>> > + //
>> > + // SAFETY: If `current`'s pid ns is non-null, then it references a valid pid ns.
>> > + // Furthermore, the returned `&PidNamespace` borrows from this `CurrentTask`, so it cannot
>> > + // escape the scope in which the current pointer was obtained.
>> > + Some(unsafe { PidNamespace::from_ptr(active_ns) })
>> > + }
>>
>> Can we move the impl block and the struct definition next to each other?
>
> I could move the definition of CurrentTask down, but I'm not really
> convinced that it's an improvement.
I would prefer that, but it's just personal preference. I think it makes
for a more comfortable ride when reading the code first time.
Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg
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2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Rust support for mm_struct, vm_area_struct, and mmap Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] mm: rust: add abstraction for struct mm_struct Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 11:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 9:53 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:48 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 1:54 ` John Hubbard
2025-01-15 12:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 10:36 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-15 20:20 ` John Hubbard
2025-01-17 0:45 ` Balbir Singh
2025-01-17 12:47 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] mm: rust: add vm_area_struct methods that require read access Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:12 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:21 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:02 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-09 8:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-09 9:50 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-09 11:29 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-09 15:32 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 14:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 9:50 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 11:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-14 13:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-01-15 11:02 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-15 11:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] mm: rust: add vm_insert_page Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:25 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:02 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:33 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] mm: rust: add lock_vma_under_rcu Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 12:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:04 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:34 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] mm: rust: add mmput_async support Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:10 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] mm: rust: add VmAreaNew for f_ops->mmap() Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:41 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:23 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:19 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:17 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 9:57 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 9:31 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:24 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:23 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-13 10:18 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-10 13:34 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-10 16:09 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] rust: miscdevice: add mmap support Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 13:53 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-11 10:37 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] task: rust: rework how current is accessed Alice Ryhl
2024-12-16 14:47 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-01-08 12:32 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-09 8:42 ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-01-13 10:26 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-15 10:24 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 23:40 ` Boqun Feng
2025-01-13 10:30 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-14 15:30 ` Boqun Feng
2024-12-11 10:47 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Rust support for mm_struct, vm_area_struct, and mmap Alice Ryhl
2024-12-12 14:47 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-12-13 14:42 ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 14:47 ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2024-12-16 11:04 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 11:46 ` Alice Ryhl
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