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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Trace Kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Ross Zwisler <zwisler@google.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tracing: Trace instrumentation begin and end
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 12:19:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y1np824t.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230321215121.71b339c5@gandalf.local.home>

Steven!

On Tue, Mar 21 2023 at 21:51, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> From: "Steven Rostedt (VMware)" <rostedt@goodmis.org>
> produces:
>
>  2)   0.764 us    |  exit_to_user_mode_prepare();
>  2)               |  /* page_fault_user: address=0x7fadaba40fd8 ip=0x7fadaba40fd8 error_code=0x14 */
>  2)   0.581 us    |  down_read_trylock();
>
> The "page_fault_user" event is not encapsulated around any function, which
> means it probably triggered and went back to user space without any trace
> to know how long that page fault took (the down_read_trylock() is likely to
> be part of the page fault function, but that's besides the point).
>
> To help bring back the old functionality, two trace points are added. One
> just after instrumentation begins, and one just before it ends. This way,
> we can see all the time that the kernel can do something meaningful, and we
> will trace it.

Seriously? That's completely insane. Have you actually looked how many
instrumentation_begin()/end() pairs are in the affected code pathes?

Obviously not. It's a total of _five_ for every syscall and at least
_four_ for every interrupt/exception from user mode.

The number #1 design rule for instrumentation is to be as non-intrusive as
possible and not to be as lazy as possible.

instrumentation_begin()/end() is solely meant for objtool validation and
nothing else.

There are clearly less horrible ways to retrieve the #PF duration, no?

Thanks,

        tglx




  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-22  1:51 [PATCH] tracing: Trace instrumentation begin and end Steven Rostedt
2023-03-22  2:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-03-22  3:26 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-22  3:47 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-22 11:19 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-03-22 12:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-22 12:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-22 15:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-22 18:16       ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-22 22:03         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-23  1:56 ` kernel test robot

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