From: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: david@lang.hm, Emmanuel Benisty <benisty.e@gmail.com>,
Kurt H Maier <khm@sdf.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: udev breakages -
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 20:09:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y5jjs9h9.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121005214358.GA12736@khazad-dum.debian.net> (Henrique de Moraes Holschuh's message of "Fri, 5 Oct 2012 18:43:58 -0300")
On 5 Oct 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh told this:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2012, david@lang.hm wrote:
>> >On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Kurt H Maier <khm@sdf.org> wrote:
>> >>On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 07:27:01PM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
>> >>>Al, that -><- close to volunteering for maintaining that FPOS kernel-side...
>> >>
>> >>This would be fantastic.
>> >
>> >And that would solve this very much worrying issue [1], quoting:
>> >"(Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you
>> >haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop
>> >that support entirely.)"
>> >
>> >[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-August/006066.html
>>
>> I think it's worth noting that even though udev 189 was recently
>> released, the not-yet-released Ubuntu 10.10 is going to be including
>> udev 175.
>
> So is Debian.
I'm a bit surprised they didn't stick with 168, really. Even udev 175
requires a /usr mount in the initramfs, and devtmpfs (though the latter
is easy to replace). The former is probably a good idea anyway. The
latter... for any system other than the very largest, or embedded
systems that must boot in a second or less, I can't see a benefit.
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2012-10-04 14:50 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Kurt H Maier
2012-10-05 8:03 ` Emmanuel Benisty
2012-10-05 20:17 ` david
2012-10-05 21:43 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2012-10-06 19:09 ` Nix [this message]
[not found] <4FE9169D.5020300@redhat.com>
2012-10-02 13:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-02 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-02 22:12 ` Greg KH
2012-10-02 22:23 ` Greg KH
2012-10-02 22:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 15:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-10-03 16:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 17:09 ` Al Viro
2012-10-03 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 19:26 ` Al Viro
2012-10-04 0:57 ` udev breakages - Nix
2012-10-04 10:35 ` Nix
2012-10-03 19:50 ` udev breakages - was: Re: Need of an ".async_probe()" type of callback at driver's core - Was: Re: [PATCH] [media] drxk: change it to use request_firmware_nowait() Greg KH
2012-10-03 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-03 22:48 ` Andy Walls
2012-10-03 22:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-04 2:39 ` Kay Sievers
2012-10-04 17:29 ` udev breakages - Eric W. Biederman
2012-10-04 17:42 ` Greg KH
2012-10-04 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-10 3:19 ` Felipe Contreras
2012-10-10 16:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-10-11 3:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
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