From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Al Boldi <a1426z@gawab.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Hibernation Redesign
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:27:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y7hpvbpr.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200707091709.09912.oliver@neukum.org> (Oliver Neukum's message of "Mon\, 9 Jul 2007 17\:09\:09 +0200")
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> writes:
> Am Montag, 9. Juli 2007 schrieb Jeremy Maitin-Shepard:
>> Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org> writes:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> > Hm, once the new kernel is booted, this decision is irrevocable, isn't it?
>> > Is there any way to deal with errors by handing control back?
>>
>> Returning to the old kernel can be done by telling drivers to set the
>> hardware to the appropriate state, then copying the backed up memory
>> back to the beginning of physical memory, and finally jumping to the old
>> kernel. It would be much like what is done to resume from hibernation.
> If you can do that, why load a new kernel image?
The challenges in doing that are analogous to the challenges in
suspending to RAM, for which it has been agreed that drivers should be
fixed such that the freezer is not necessary.
The hard part of hibernate is not creating the snapshot; rather, the
hard part is writing the snapshot, and allowing the user some
flexibility in how and where the snapshot is written. The kdump
approach allows complete flexibility in writing the snapshot
(essentially any kernel or user space facility can be used), while not
interfering at all with the snapshot state.
--
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-09 15:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-08 14:37 Hibernation Redesign (was: malicious filesystems (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM) Al Boldi
2007-07-09 4:11 ` Hibernation Redesign Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:36 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:45 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 4:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 4:58 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 5:33 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 6:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-09 13:45 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 14:02 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 14:26 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-09 15:09 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-09 15:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard [this message]
2007-07-09 4:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-09 13:52 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-09 15:30 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 1:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-10 2:28 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 14:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-10 17:25 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-10 22:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-07-11 4:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 10:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 10:42 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 11:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 11:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:00 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:17 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:29 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 21:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-12 9:15 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-12 22:13 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:49 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 12:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 12:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 12:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-11 13:16 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 20:48 ` Mark Lord
2007-07-11 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 22:17 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 22:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-11 23:12 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-11 23:31 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-12 3:11 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-12 13:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 6:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-07-12 20:29 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-11 23:46 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-11 17:55 ` david
2007-07-11 22:54 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-10 17:45 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-10 18:20 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
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