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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	paulmck@kernel.org, rui.zhang@intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] x86/tsc: Make recalibration default on for TSC_KNOWN_FREQ cases
Date: Mon, 22 May 2023 13:49:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg5wwppa.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGssENXFKmOk/zL7@feng-clx>

On Mon, May 22 2023 at 16:47, Feng Tang wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 10:14:08AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Mon, May 22 2023 at 11:30, Feng Tang wrote:
>> Are any of these affected platforms shipping already or is this just
>> Intel internal muck?
>
> Paul and Rui can provide more info. AFAIK, those problems were raised
> by external customers, so the platform were already shipped from
> Intel. But I'm not sure they are commercial versions or early
> engineering drops. 

So its at a company which knows how to update firmware, right?

>> So why do you force this on everyone?
>
> How about we keep the optional parameter, and enforce the check for
> bare metal platforms which got TSC frequency info from CPUID(0x15),
> like:

What prevents a hypervisor from providing this info in CPUID(0x15)?

> @@ -670,8 +670,10 @@ unsigned long native_calibrate_tsc(void)
>  	 * frequency and is the most accurate one so far we have. This
>  	 * is considered a known frequency.
>  	 */
> -	if (crystal_khz != 0)
> +	if (crystal_khz != 0) {
>  		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_TSC_KNOWN_FREQ);
> +		tsc_force_recalibrate = 1;
> +	}
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Some Intel SoCs like Skylake and Kabylake don't report the crystal

and five lines further down:

	/*
	 * For Atom SoCs TSC is the only reliable clocksource.
	 * Mark TSC reliable so no watchdog on it.
	 */
	if (boot_cpu_data.x86_model == INTEL_FAM6_ATOM_GOLDMONT)
		setup_force_cpu_cap(X86_FEATURE_TSC_RELIABLE);

So its reliable and needs recalibration against hardware which does not
exist.

Thanks,

       tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-22 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22  3:30 [PATCH RFC] x86/tsc: Make recalibration default on for TSC_KNOWN_FREQ cases Feng Tang
2023-05-22  8:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22  8:47   ` Feng Tang
2023-05-22 11:49     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-05-22 13:00       ` Feng Tang
2023-05-22 14:31         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 15:20           ` Feng Tang
2023-05-22 16:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-23  1:18               ` Feng Tang
2023-05-23  8:11                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-23 14:31                   ` Feng Tang
2023-06-02 18:29   ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-06-02 18:36     ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-02 19:08       ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-06-05  1:04         ` Feng Tang
2023-06-08 16:58           ` Paul E. McKenney

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