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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Josh Stone" <jistone@redhat.com>,
	"Asahi Lina" <lina@asahilina.net>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	asahi@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rust: time: New module for timekeeping functions
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:46:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg96n12k.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65ab5cb1-2dbe-e853-48ea-d1df87706cf0@redhat.com>

On Tue, Feb 21 2023 at 09:13, Josh Stone wrote:

> On 2/21/23 4:32 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> Now the problem is that 'Instant' in it's specification is bound to
>> CLOCK_MONOTONIC and there is no way to express CLOCK_BOOTTIME, but
>> that's a shortcoming of the spec which ignores CLOCK_BOOTTIME
>> completely. IOW, that's also a problem for user space.
>
> That's not exactly *specified* -- it's meant to be opaque time. It is
> documented that this currently uses clock_gettime monotonic on unix
> targets, but "Disclaimer: These system calls might change over time."
> CLOCK_MONOTONIC isn't even consistent across unix targets whether that
> counts suspended time. It's been debated if we should switch to
> CLOCK_BOOTTIME on Linux, but for now we're sticking to monotonic:

You'll need both when you want to implement substantial parts of the low
level user space stack in Rust. Same for CLOCK_TAI.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-21  7:06 [PATCH] rust: time: New module for timekeeping functions Asahi Lina
2023-02-21  7:25 ` Eric Curtin
2023-02-21 11:23 ` Björn Roy Baron
2023-02-21 12:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21 14:06   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-21 16:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21 16:31       ` Asahi Lina
2023-02-21 18:45         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21 21:33           ` Heghedus Razvan
2023-02-22  0:01             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-22 19:55             ` Gary Guo
2023-02-21 22:29           ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-02-22  0:24             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-22  2:54               ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-22  4:45                 ` Asahi Lina
2023-02-22  5:20                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-22  6:52                   ` Heghedus Razvan
2023-02-22 12:29                   ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-02-22 12:28               ` Miguel Ojeda
2023-02-21 16:27     ` Asahi Lina
2023-02-21 16:37       ` Asahi Lina
2023-02-21 19:00       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21 19:49         ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-22  4:56         ` Asahi Lina
2023-02-22  8:33           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-21 17:13   ` Josh Stone
2023-02-21 21:46     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-02-22  9:43       ` Gaelan Steele

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