From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
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Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc()
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 23:21:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgpd2x3y.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211206210609.GN4670@nvidia.com>
On Mon, Dec 06 2021 at 17:06, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 09:28:47PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> I wish I could mask underneath for some stuff on x86. Though that would
>> not help with the worst problem vs. affinity settings. See the horrible
>> dance in:
>
> My thinking here is that this stuff in ARM is one of the different
> cases (ie not using MSI_FLAG_USE_DEF_CHIP_OPS), and I guess we can
> just handle it cleanly by having the core call both the irq_chip->mask
> and the msi_storage_ops->mask and we don't need ARM to be different,
> x86 just won't provide a mask at destination op.
>
>> x86/kernel/apic/msi.c::msi_set_affinity()
>
> Okay, so it is complicated, but it is just calling
> irq_data_get_irq_chip(irqd)->irq_write_msi_msg(irqd, msg);
>
> So, from a msi_storage_ops perspective, things are still clean.
Yes.
>> You forgot IO/APIC which is a MSI endpoint too, just more convoluted but
>> it's not using MSI domains so it's not in the way. I'm not going to
>> touch that with a ten foot pole. :)
>
> I left off IOAPIC because I view it as conceptually different. I used
> the phrasse "device that originated the interrupt" deliberately,
> IOAPIC is just a middle box that converts from a physical interrupt
> line to a message world, it belongs with the physical interrupt
> infrastructure.
I mentioned it because there is mbigen on arm64 which is the same thing,
translates hundreds of wire inputs into MSI. It's even worse than
IO/APIC. There is a horrible hack to make it "work" which Marc and I are
looking at whether we can kill it on the way.
> Possibly the IOAPIC considerations is what motivated some of this to
> look the way it does today, because it really was trying to hide MSI
> under normal PCI INTX physical pins with full compatability. We kind
> of kept doing that as MSI grew into its own thing.
Not really. It was more to avoid having a complete separate
infrastructure for irqdomain based MSI[X]. Lazyness and lack of time
added the rest of non-motivation :)
> I'm curious to see if you end up with irq_domains and irq_chips along
> with what I labeled as the msi_storage above, or if those turn out to
> be unnecesary for the driver to provide MSI programming.
I cant avoid irq chips because from the interrupt handling side of view
that's unavoidable unless we create a duplicate zoo there. What I have
in mind is to convert the msi ops provided by the device driver into a
real chip as that just falls in place without further changes.
The irqdomain will be real as well just to make things consistent and to
share as much code as possible.
> Also, if msi_storage_ops can be robust enough you'd be comfortable
> with it in a driver .c file and just a regex match in the MAINTAINERS
> file :)
That might work. Let's see when we are there.
>> - Have a transition mechanism to convert one part at a time to keep
>> the patch sizes reviewable and the whole mess bisectable.
>
> This seems difficult all on its own..
I've done that before. It just needs some thought.
Thanks,
tglx
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2021-11-27 1:22 [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 01/32] genirq/msi: Move descriptor list to struct msi_device_data Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 02/32] genirq/msi: Add mutex for MSI list protection Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 03/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_domain_alloc/free_irqs_descs_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 04/32] genirq/msi: Provide a set of advanced MSI accessors and iterators Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 1:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-28 19:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 9:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 14:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 05/32] genirq/msi: Provide msi_alloc_msi_desc() and a simple allocator Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 06/32] genirq/msi: Provide domain flags to allocate/free MSI descriptors automatically Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 07/32] genirq/msi: Count the allocated MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 19:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 08/32] PCI/MSI: Protect MSI operations Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 09/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_add_msi_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 10/32] PCI/MSI: Let core code free MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 11/32] PCI/MSI: Use msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 12/32] x86/pci/xen: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 13/32] xen/pcifront: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 14/32] s390/pci: Rework MSI descriptor walk Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 10:31 ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-11-29 13:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 15/32] powerpc/4xx/hsta: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 16/32] powerpc/cell/axon_msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 17/32] powerpc/pasemi/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_dec() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 18/32] powerpc/fsl_msi: Use msi_for_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 19/32] powerpc/mpic_u3msi: Use msi_for_each-desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:22 ` [patch 20/32] PCI: hv: Rework MSI handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 21/32] NTB/msi: Convert to msi_on_each_desc() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 18:21 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 20:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-29 22:27 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 22:50 ` Dave Jiang
2021-11-29 23:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-29 23:52 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 0:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 0:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 19:21 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 19:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-30 20:14 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 20:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-30 21:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 0:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 10:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 13:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 17:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:46 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 0:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 14:23 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-02 14:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 19:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-02 20:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-02 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 0:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-03 15:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-03 16:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-04 14:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-05 14:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 14:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 15:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-06 17:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 20:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2021-12-06 22:21 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
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2021-12-09 22:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2021-12-10 12:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-11 8:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 19:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2021-12-11 13:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2021-12-12 0:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-12 2:14 ` Tian, Kevin
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2021-12-12 23:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-10 7:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-12-10 12:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-12 6:44 ` Mika Penttilä
2021-12-12 23:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 14:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 15:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 18:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-12-01 18:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-01 20:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-05 18:25 ` [tip: irq/core] PCI/MSI: Provide post-enable dynamic allocation interfaces for MSI-X tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2022-12-05 21:41 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 22/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Rework MSI descriptor allocation Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 23/32] soc: ti: ti_sci_inta_msi: Remove ti_sci_inta_msi_domain_free_irqs() Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 24/32] bus: fsl-mc-msi: Simplify MSI descriptor handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 25/32] platform-msi: Let core code handle MSI descriptors Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 26/32] platform-msi: Simplify platform device MSI code Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 27/32] genirq/msi: Make interrupt allocation less convoluted Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 28/32] genirq/msi: Convert to new functions Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 29/32] genirq/msi: Mop up old interfaces Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 30/32] genirq/msi: Add abuse prevention comment to msi header Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 31/32] genirq/msi: Simplify sysfs handling Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 19:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-28 11:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-28 19:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 32/32] genirq/msi: Convert storage to xarray Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 1:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-11-27 12:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-27 1:23 ` [patch 00/32] genirq/msi, PCI/MSI: Spring cleaning - Part 2 Thomas Gleixner
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