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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com, jiangshanlai@gmail.com,
	Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] rcu: use killable versions of swait
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:55:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zid92ns2.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB=NE6V6rf25u335QKFjqm3euvyTvJRZrjVM83QBs8t1eweh3A@mail.gmail.com> (Luis R. Rodriguez's message of "Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:35:45 -0700")

"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org> writes:

> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:50:39PM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 04:43:45PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 04:06:39PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:

>>> > > Signed-off-by: Luis R. Rodriguez <mcgrof@kernel.org>
>>> > > ---
>>> > >
>>> > > The killable swaits were just posted [1] as part of a series where SIGCHLD
>>> > > was detected as interrupting and killing kernel calls waiting using
>>> > > non-killable swaits [1]. The fragility here made curious about other callers
>>> > > and seeing if they really meant to use such broad wait which captures a lot
>>> > > of signals.
>>> > >
>>> > > I can't see why we'd want to have these killed by other signals, specialy
>>> > > since it seems we don't even check for the return value... Granted to abort
>>> > > properly we'd have to check for the return value for -ERESTARTSYS, but yeah,
>>> > > none of this is done, so it would seem we don't want fragile signals
>>> > > interrupting these ?
>>> >
>>> > The later WARN_ON(signal_pending(current)) complains if a signal somehow
>>> > makes it to this task.  Assuming that the signal is nonfatal, anyway.
>>>
>>> I see, how about just using swait_event_timeout() and removing the WARN_ON()?
>>> Is there a reason for having the interruptible ?
>>
>> If sleeping-uninterruptible kthreads are now excluded from the load average,
>> no reason.  But if sleeping-uninterruptible kthreads are still included in
>> the load average, it must stay interruptible.
>
> Got it!

There is now TASK_IDLE that is uninterruptible and does not contribute
to load avearage.  see: task_contributes_to_load.

So a swait_event_idle() could be written for this case.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-15 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-14 23:06 [RFC] rcu: use killable versions of swait Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-14 23:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-15 15:50   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15 16:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-15 16:35       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15 16:55         ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2017-06-15 18:48           ` [RFC v2 0/2] swait: add idle to make idle-hacks on kthreads explicit Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15 18:48             ` [RFC v2 1/2] swait: add idle variants which don't contribute to load average Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-16  0:47               ` Boqun Feng
2017-06-20 21:32                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-16 20:31               ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-19 17:53                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-15 18:48             ` [RFC v2 2/2] rcu: use idle versions of swait to make idle-hack clear Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15 21:57             ` [RFC v2 0/2] swait: add idle to make idle-hacks on kthreads explicit Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-15 23:26               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-15 23:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-16 20:37                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-06-19 17:54                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-20 21:45             ` [PATCH " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-20 21:45               ` [PATCH 1/2] swait: add idle variants which don't contribute to load average Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-20 21:45               ` [PATCH 2/2] rcu: use idle versions of swait to make idle-hack clear Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-21 16:48               ` [PATCH 0/2] swait: add idle to make idle-hacks on kthreads explicit Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-21 17:57                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-06-21 18:19                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-06-15 17:34         ` [RFC] rcu: use killable versions of swait Paul E. McKenney

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