Re: [malware-list] [RFC 0/5] [TALPA] Intro to a linuxinterfaceforon access scanning

tvrtko.ursulin
2008-08-06T11:08:59Z

Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org> wrote on 06/08/2008 11:50:08:

> On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:05:43AM +0100, tvrtko.ursulin@sophos.com
wrote:
> > Greg KH wrote on 05/08/2008 21:26:21:
> >
> > > > [JON PRESS] I wouldn't call it lazy, actually. It's more like
> > > > "economical" or "ergonomic" -- or, dare I say it --
"user-friendly."
> > In
> > > > this case, the users are the AV vendors who will have to write to
the
> > > > API that will come out of this spec. We will be more inclined to
> > > > appreciate the SDK (for want of a better term) if it covers all
the
> > > > bases, rather than force us to go elsewhere for some of our
> > > > requirements. When we write SDKs, we try to make sure that our
users
> > > > will find whatever they need.
> > >
> > > But realize that you are adding an overhead on us, the kernel
community,
> > > to make your life easier. We are the ones that are taking our time
to
> > > review and comment on this code. We are the ones who will have to
live
> > > with this code for forever, and maintain it over the lifetime of
linux.
> > > So far, you all have shown no willingness to give anything back to
us at
> > > all.
> >
> > We all? How is that true? I for example wrote some code and am willing
to
> > help maintain it if it gets accepted. And as you describe it, it would
be
> > true for any submission because not all things are usefull for all
people,
> > while everything is baggage for the community. And who is the
community? I
> > thought all who take place in discussions, bug reporting, submitting
code,
> > fixing bugs etc are the community.
>
> As an observer of this thread:
>
> - Some set of requirements suddenly appears out of the void on
> linux-kernel.

Because previously it was said to go away and come back with a clear list
of requirements. And here you make it sound like a negative thing. See
what I am talking about?

> - Noone is able and/or willing to exactly describe the problem(s) they
> are trying to solve.

Hopefully we will get there. Very little time has passed since the
discussion has started, even less considering the time zone difference for
some.

> With this status quo the discussion is going nowhere - Linux kernel
> development does not work this way.
>
> The aim is not to include this code, but to find the best technical
> solution for your problem(s) - no matter whether this will have anything
> in common with the list of requirements and the code posted or not.

I completely agree with that. Here I was just pointing out that what Greg
wrote was untrue and exaggerated so not helping the discussion at all.

Tvrtko

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