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From: Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"open list:BLOCK LAYER" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] block: fix fix ordering between checking QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED and adding requests to hctx->dispatch
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:40:50 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <88D82529-3D30-401A-B94B-7E8964D51AF0@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFj5m9KmQZM8+nMORaQOJC-tzM0AOMz+kUyDa1r8V0NTcOVXtg@mail.gmail.com>



> On Aug 29, 2024, at 10:51, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 27, 2024 at 4:17 PM Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2024, at 15:24, Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 26, 2024, at 17:20, Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 03:33:18PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2024, at 15:06, Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 7:28 PM Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2024 at 06:19:21 PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>>>>> Supposing the following scenario.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CPU0                                                                CPU1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> blk_mq_request_issue_directly()                                     blk_mq_unquiesce_queue()
>>>>>>>> if (blk_queue_quiesced())                                           blk_queue_flag_clear(QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED)   3) store
>>>>>>>>     blk_mq_insert_request()                                         blk_mq_run_hw_queues()
>>>>>>>>         /*                                                              blk_mq_run_hw_queue()
>>>>>>>>          * Add request to dispatch list or set bitmap of                    if (!blk_mq_hctx_has_pending())     4) load
>>>>>>>>          * software queue.                  1) store                            return
>>>>>>>>          */
>>>>>>>>     blk_mq_run_hw_queue()
>>>>>>>>         if (blk_queue_quiesced())           2) load
>>>>>>>>             return
>>>>>>>>         blk_mq_sched_dispatch_requests()
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The full memory barrier should be inserted between 1) and 2), as well as
>>>>>>>> between 3) and 4) to make sure that either CPU0 sees QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED is
>>>>>>>> cleared or CPU1 sees dispatch list or setting of bitmap of software queue.
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, either CPU will not re-run the hardware queue causing starvation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Memory barrier shouldn't serve as bug fix for two slow code paths.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One simple fix is to add helper of blk_queue_quiesced_lock(), and
>>>>>>> call the following check on CPU0:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     if (blk_queue_quiesced_lock())
>>>>>>>      blk_mq_run_hw_queue();
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This only fixes blk_mq_request_issue_directly(), I think anywhere that
>>>>>> matching this
>>>>>> pattern (inserting a request to dispatch list and then running the
>>>>>> hardware queue)
>>>>>> should be fixed. And I think there are many places which match this
>>>>>> pattern (E.g.
>>>>>> blk_mq_submit_bio()). The above graph should be adjusted to the following.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> CPU0                                        CPU1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> blk_mq_insert_request()         1) store    blk_mq_unquiesce_queue()
>>>>>> blk_mq_run_hw_queue()
>>>>>> blk_queue_flag_clear(QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED)       3) store
>>>>>> if (blk_queue_quiesced())   2) load         blk_mq_run_hw_queues()
>>>>>>     return                                      blk_mq_run_hw_queue()
>>>>>> blk_mq_sched_dispatch_requests()                    if
>>>>>> (!blk_mq_hctx_has_pending())     4) load
>>>>>>                                                         return
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry. There is something wrong with my email client. Resend the graph.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CPU0                                        CPU1
>>>>> 
>>>>> blk_mq_insert_request()         1) store    blk_mq_unquiesce_queue()
>>>>> blk_mq_run_hw_queue()                       blk_queue_flag_clear(QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED)       3) store
>>>>>  if (blk_queue_quiesced())   2) load         blk_mq_run_hw_queues()
>>>>>      return                                      blk_mq_run_hw_queue()
>>>>>  blk_mq_sched_dispatch_requests()                    if (!blk_mq_hctx_has_pending())     4) load
>>>>>                                                          return
>>>> 
>>>> OK.
>>>> 
>>>> The issue shouldn't exist if blk_queue_quiesced() return false in
>>>> blk_mq_run_hw_queue(), so it is still one race in two slow paths?
>>>> 
>>>> I guess the barrier-less approach should work too, such as:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> If we prefer barrier-less approach, I think the following solution
>>> will work as well, I'll use it in v2. Thanks.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> diff --git a/block/blk-mq.c b/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> index e3c3c0c21b55..632261982a77 100644
>>>> --- a/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> +++ b/block/blk-mq.c
>>>> @@ -2202,6 +2202,12 @@ void blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue(struct blk_mq_hw_ctx *hctx, unsigned long msecs)
>>>> }
>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL(blk_mq_delay_run_hw_queue);
>>>> 
>>>> +static inline bool blk_mq_hw_queue_need_run(struct blk_mq_hw_ctx *hctx)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    return !blk_queue_quiesced(hctx->queue) &&
>>>> +            blk_mq_hctx_has_pending(hctx);
>>>> +}
>>>> +
>>>> /**
>>>> * blk_mq_run_hw_queue - Start to run a hardware queue.
>>>> * @hctx: Pointer to the hardware queue to run.
>>>> @@ -2231,11 +2237,19 @@ void blk_mq_run_hw_queue(struct blk_mq_hw_ctx *hctx, bool async)
>>>> * quiesced.
>>>> */
>>>>     __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops(hctx->queue, false,
>>>> -            need_run = !blk_queue_quiesced(hctx->queue) &&
>>>> -            blk_mq_hctx_has_pending(hctx));
>>>> +            need_run = blk_mq_hw_queue_need_run(hctx));
>>>> 
>>>> -    if (!need_run)
>>>> -            return;
>>>> +    if (!need_run) {
>>>> +            unsigned long flags;
>>>> +
>>>> +            /* sync with unquiesce */
>>>> +            spin_lock_irqsave(&hctx->queue->queue_lock, flags);
>> 
>> After some time thought, I think here we need a big comment to explain
>> why we need to sync. Because there are other caller of blk_queue_quiesced()
>> which do not need to hold ->queue_lock to sync. Then, I am thinking
>> is ->queue_lock really easier to be maintained than mb? For developers,
>> we still need to care about this, right? I don't see any obvious benefit.
>> And the mb approach seems more efficient than spinlock. Something like:
>> 
>>        if (!need_run) {
>>                /* Add a comment here to explain what's going on here. */
>>                smp_mb();
>>                need_run = blk_mq_hw_queue_need_run(hctx);
>>                if (!need_run)
>>                        return;
>>        }
>> 
>> I am not objecting to your approach, I want to know if you insist on
>> barrier-less approach here. If yes, I'm fine with this approach. I can
>> use it in v2.
> 
> Yes, as I mentioned, the race only exists on two slow code paths,
> we seldom use barrier in slow paths, in which traditional lock
> can provide a simpler & more readable solution.  Anytime,
> READ/WRITE dependency implied in any barrier is hard to follow.

Got it. Thanks for your reply.

> 
> Thanks,



      reply	other threads:[~2024-08-29  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-11 10:19 [PATCH 0/4] Fix some starvation problems Muchun Song
2024-08-11 10:19 ` [PATCH 1/4] block: fix request starvation when queue is stopped or quiesced Muchun Song
2024-08-16  9:14   ` Ming Lei
2024-08-11 10:19 ` [PATCH 2/4] block: fix ordering between checking BLK_MQ_S_STOPPED and adding requests to hctx->dispatch Muchun Song
2024-08-19  2:27   ` Ming Lei
2024-08-19  3:49     ` Muchun Song
2024-08-22  3:54       ` Yu Kuai
2024-08-26  8:35         ` Muchun Song
2024-08-26  8:53           ` Yu Kuai
2024-08-27  7:31             ` Muchun Song
2024-08-29  7:57               ` Yu Kuai
2024-08-11 10:19 ` [PATCH 3/4] block: fix missing smp_mb in blk_mq_{delay_}run_hw_queues Muchun Song
2024-08-11 10:19 ` [PATCH 4/4] block: fix fix ordering between checking QUEUE_FLAG_QUIESCED and adding requests to hctx->dispatch Muchun Song
2024-08-23 11:27   ` Ming Lei
2024-08-26  7:06     ` Muchun Song
2024-08-26  7:33       ` Muchun Song
2024-08-26  9:20         ` Ming Lei
2024-08-27  7:24           ` Muchun Song
2024-08-27  8:16             ` Muchun Song
2024-08-29  2:51               ` Ming Lei
2024-08-29  3:40                 ` Muchun Song [this message]

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