From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org, Sandeep Dhavale <dhavale@google.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <quic_neeraju@quicinc.com>,
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Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 22:34:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <894a3b64-a369-7bc6-c8a8-0910843cc587@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEXW_YSODXRfgkR0D2G-x=0uZdsqvF3kZL+LL3DcRX-5CULJ1Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 2023/7/13 22:07, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:59 AM Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>> On 2023/7/13 12:52, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 12:41:09PM +0800, Gao Xiang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>>
>>>> There are lots of performance issues here and even a plumber
>>>> topic last year to show that, see:
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20230519001709.2563-1-tj@kernel.org
>>>> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAHk-=wgE9kORADrDJ4nEsHHLirqPCZ1tGaEPAZejHdZ03qCOGg@mail.gmail.com
>>>> [3] https://lore.kernel.org/r/CAB=BE-SBtO6vcoyLNA9F-9VaN5R0t3o_Zn+FW8GbO6wyUqFneQ@mail.gmail.com
>>>> [4] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1338/
>>>> and more.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if it's necessary to look info all of that,
>>>> andSandeep knows more than I am (the scheduling issue
>>>> becomes vital on some aarch64 platform.)
>>>
>>> Hmmm... Please let me try again.
>>>
>>> Assuming that this approach turns out to make sense, the resulting
>>> patch will need to clearly state the performance benefits directly in
>>> the commit log.
>>>
>>> And of course, for the approach to make sense, it must avoid breaking
>>> the existing lockdep-RCU debugging code.
>>>
>>> Is that more clear?
>>
>> Personally I'm not working on Android platform any more so I don't
>> have a way to reproduce, hopefully Sandeep could give actually
>> number _again_ if dm-verity is enabled and trigger another
>> workqueue here and make a comparsion why the scheduling latency of
>> the extra work becomes unacceptable.
>>
>
> Question from my side, are we talking about only performance issues or
> also a crash? It appears z_erofs_decompress_pcluster() takes
> mutex_lock(&pcl->lock);
>
> So if it is either in an RCU read-side critical section or in an
> atomic section, like the softirq path, then it may
> schedule-while-atomic or trigger RCU warnings.
>
> z_erofs_decompressqueue_endio
> -> z_erofs_decompress_kickoff
> ->z_erofs_decompressqueue_work
> ->z_erofs_decompress_queue
> -> z_erofs_decompress_pcluster
> -> mutex_lock
>
Why does the softirq path not trigger a workqueue instead? why here
it triggers "schedule-while-atomic" in the softirq context?
> Per Sandeep in [1], this stack happens under RCU read-lock in:
>
> #define __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops(q, check_sleep, dispatch_ops) \
> [...]
> rcu_read_lock();
> (dispatch_ops);
> rcu_read_unlock();
> [...]
>
> Coming from:
> blk_mq_flush_plug_list ->
> blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops(q,
> __blk_mq_flush_plug_list(q, plug));
>
> and __blk_mq_flush_plug_list does this:
> q->mq_ops->queue_rqs(&plug->mq_list);
>
> This somehow ends up calling the bio_endio and the
> z_erofs_decompressqueue_endio which grabs the mutex.
>
> So... I have a question, it looks like one of the paths in
> __blk_mq_run_dispatch_ops() uses SRCU. Where are as the alternate
> path uses RCU. Why does this alternate want to block even if it is not
> supposed to? Is the real issue here that the BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING should
> be set? It sounds like you want to block in the "else" path even
> though BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING is not set:
BLK_MQ_F_BLOCKING is not a flag that a filesystem can do anything with.
That is block layer and mq device driver stuffs. filesystems cannot set
this value.
As I said, as far as I understand, previously,
.end_io() can only be called without RCU context, so it will be fine,
but I don't know when .end_io() can be called under some RCU context
now.
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-13 14:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-11 23:38 [PATCH v1] rcu: Fix and improve RCU read lock checks when !CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-12 17:02 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-12 21:20 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 0:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 2:02 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:10 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 2:16 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 4:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:41 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 4:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:59 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 14:07 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 14:34 ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2023-07-13 15:33 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-13 16:09 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-13 18:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 19:00 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-13 22:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 16:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 17:05 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 17:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 18:51 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 23:08 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-13 23:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 2:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 3:16 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-14 13:42 ` Joel Fernandes
2023-07-14 13:51 ` Gao Xiang
2023-07-14 14:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-07-14 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 15:35 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 15:54 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 17:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 18:40 ` Alan Huang
2023-07-14 18:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-14 19:15 ` Sandeep Dhavale
2023-07-14 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-07-13 4:51 ` Gao Xiang
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