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From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.5.28 and partitions
Date: 02 Aug 2002 20:33:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8U6Y4oS1w-B@khms.westfalen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200208021454.JAA37529@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>

pollard@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil (Jesse Pollard)  wrote on 02.08.02 in <200208021454.JAA37529@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>:

> kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen):
> ...
> > As for finding where to boot from - either have the bootloader define a
> > partition name it wants to see, or put the relevant name into the boot
> > loader config. No need to define that in the partition format. That's
> > trivial: even MS-DOS did that (finding IO.SYS and MSDOS.SYS from the boot
> > loader)! And neither scanning for '=' and '\n' nor comparing one string
> > nor converting one number from decimal is any kind of hardship. Maybe half
> > a screen of assembler, tops.
> >
>
> Nope.
>
> The problem is different - which file system is the file stored in?

Huh?! What file?!

> How many different filesystems are there?

That's not a question for the bootloader.

> Do think all of them will fit in a boot loader?

Who cares? You can always give it a partition of its own. (The example did  
exactly that!)

> Or even one of them?
> How many different logical volume structures are there?

I have no idea what you are talking about here.

> Do do this you first have to convince the development people to say that
> "only xxxx filesystem shall be bootable".

Utter nonsense.

> And now, you also have to add possible logical volumes on top (or under :)
> of it.

What are you babbling about?

> That is why LILO doesn't use file names for boots. It only uses block
> numbers.

So?

(By the way, it's the *only* boot loader I know that does this.)

> Another alternative (possibly just as hard) is to have LILO only
> load a more complex and dynamic loader, which could be configured for
> each filesystem structure. Once that "dynamic loader" is loaded, it
> could find and load the kernel (passing, of course, the boot command line
> from LILO).

What on earth does that have to do with the format of a partition table?!

> I know IRIX gets around the problem by having a tiny filesystem for the
> "disk label". This filesystem contains only contigeous files, and has

Around *which* problem?! That's certainly something that's only relevant  
after the bootloader is long gone.

Frankly, I have no idea what you're smoking, but it can't be healthy.

MfG Kai

  reply	other threads:[~2002-08-02 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-02 14:54 2.5.28 and partitions Jesse Pollard
2002-08-02 18:33 ` Kai Henningsen [this message]
     [not found] <15688.27022.143541.447952@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
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2002-07-31 23:38 Matt_Domsch
     [not found] <F44891A593A6DE4B99FDCB7CC537BBBBB839AC@AUSXMPS308.aus.amer .dell.com>
2002-07-31 22:58 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-31 22:47 Matt_Domsch
     [not found] <15688.25919.138565.6427@wombat.chubb.wattle.id.au>
2002-07-31 22:39 ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 10:08   ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 12:31     ` Kai Henningsen
2002-08-01 19:29   ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 20:31     ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 20:45       ` Thunder from the hill
2002-08-01 21:08         ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:25           ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:41             ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-02 19:40               ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-01 21:02       ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-01 21:27         ` Alexander Viro
2002-08-01 21:45           ` Marcin Dalecki
2002-08-02  5:21           ` Ryan Anderson
2002-08-01 21:24       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 19:47         ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 20:49           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 21:21             ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-08-02 22:12               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2002-08-02 22:53                 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-07-25 17:50 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-25 13:24 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25 13:45 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-26  5:13   ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-25 12:43 Petr Vandrovec
2002-07-25  3:22 Matt_Domsch
2002-07-25  5:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-25 11:44   ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 15:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-07-30  9:58     ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]   ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207250739390.17037-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 13:03     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 16:50       ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25 17:35         ` Jason L Tibbitts III
2002-07-25 17:57         ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-25 18:27           ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-27  5:56         ` Austin Gonyou
     [not found]       ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207251245530.17621-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25 17:39         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25 10:42 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-24 22:42 Andries.Brouwer
2002-07-24 23:42 ` Alexander Viro
2002-07-25  0:20   ` kwijibo
2002-07-25  4:00   ` Jason L Tibbitts III
     [not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0207241925450.14656-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu >
2002-07-25  2:11   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-07-25  5:15     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]     ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0207242213540.1231-100000@home.transmeta.com >
2002-07-25  8:43       ` Anton Altaparmakov

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