From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B71C433E8D; Thu, 2 Jul 2026 15:02:22 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783004544; cv=none; b=l5YrZcWfo7ZkXZ7Q/GLgC5X5x6Ia8tJq7e8fazNt7xseJx/Ox3I3XF3OcTPzmvMJkagtvNFeZiVm3HPnFmXOzjDakNrVIWX655/ATpgHcCMXvEOSxEXoXqnrxW5dgqvCL3O7bbGCnvPDWY60bKn25T8MTvWgFduk1ur7kH6irY8= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1783004544; c=relaxed/simple; bh=aqVkFHW9/gmUxK+XgDWp2QjbPz/qVa9j1O3pl/9Iu+0=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:MIME-Version; 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text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Evolution 3.60.2 (3.60.2-1.fc44) Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Thu, 2026-07-02 at 17:53 +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several > > months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from thi= s > > is quite low. > >=20 > > 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to attribute > > the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons. > >=20 > > 2/ It basically serves as free advertising for proprietary LLM companie= s. > >=20 > > 3/ It's not clear why we want to collect this info in the first place. > >=20 > > Given that the data this provides is flawed at best and is being > > collected for a purpose that isn't clear, let's just kill the > > requirement for these tags from the kernel at large. > >=20 > > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton > > --- > > Christian had proposed watering down the LLM attribution, but I think > > it's not productive to try and track this until we have a clearer sense > > of what we want to do with this information and how to make it more > > reliable. > > --- > > Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst | 22 --------------------= -- > > Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 10 ---------- >=20 > You're missing scripts/checkpatch.pl. >=20 > > 2 files changed, 32 deletions(-) > >=20 > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentatio= n/process/coding-assistants.rst > > index 899f4459c52d..c4cc0917fc92 100644 > > --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > > +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst > > @@ -35,25 +35,3 @@ is responsible for: > > * Ensuring compliance with licensing requirements > > * Adding their own Signed-off-by tag to certify the DCO > > * Taking full responsibility for the contribution > > - > > -Attribution > > -=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > - > > -When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution > > -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. > > -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following forma= t:: > > - > > - Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2] > > - > > -Where: > > - > > -* ``AGENT_NAME`` is the name of the AI tool or framework > > -* ``MODEL_VERSION`` is the specific model version used > > -* ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are optional specialized analysis tools used > > - (e.g., coccinelle, sparse, smatch, clang-tidy) > > - > > -Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not be listed= . > > - > > -Example:: > > - > > - Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse >=20 > Documentation/process/generated-content.rst still clearly requests > contributors to disclose usage of code-generation tools. Even if we drop > the Assisted-by tag, I think it is useful to mention the requirement > here (probably including a link to generated-content.rst). >=20 Fair point. Maybe we should keep the Attribution section then, and give it some brief text like: "Contributions developed with LLM help should also follow the guidelines outlined in the generated-content document." With a link to generated-content.rst? > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentati= on/process/submitting-patches.rst > > index cc6a1f73d7f2..b74c38aa9770 100644 > > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst > > @@ -634,16 +634,6 @@ bugzilla.kernel.org is a public place in this sens= e, but email addresses > > used there are private; so do not expose them in tags, unless the pers= on > > used them in earlier contributions. > > =20 > > -Using Assisted-by: > > ------------------- > > - > > -If you used any sort of advanced coding tool in the creation of your p= atch, > > -you need to acknowledge that use by adding an Assisted-by tag. Failur= e to > > -do so may impede the acceptance of your work. Please see > > -Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst for details regarding the > > -acknowledgment of coding assistants. > > - > > - > > .. _the_canonical_patch_format: > > =20 > > The canonical patch format > >=20 > > --- > > base-commit: 665159e246749578d4e4bfe106ee3b74edcdab18 > > change-id: 20260702-aidoc-7e18f221d63a --=20 Jeff Layton