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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	"Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Alyssa Ross" <hi@alyssa.is>,
	virtualization@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	x86@kernel.org, "Spectrum OS Development" <devel@spectrum-os.org>
Subject: Re: Virtio-IOMMU interrupt remapping design
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 12:53:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c3b08d5-24aa-4db2-84e1-dfd1d2c52065@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250616132031.GB1354058@ziepe.ca>


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On 6/16/25 09:20, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 02:47:15PM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> 
>> Is a paravirtualized IOMMU with interrupt remapping something that makes
>> sense?
> 
> IMHO linking interrupt remapping to the iommu is a poor design,
> interrupt routing belongs in the irq subsystem, not in the iommu.

I agree.

> The fact AMD and Intel both coupled their interrupt routing to their
> iommu hardware is just a weird design decision. ARM didn't do this,
> for instance.

Arm did the right thing here, IMO.

> So I would not try to do this at all, you should have a
> para-virtualized IRQ interface, not an extension to virtio-iommu
> adding interrupt handling. :\

I don't disagree at all.

> AFAIK hyperv shows how to build something like this.
Would this need KVM patches?  I'm concerned that implementing this
in userspace would interact badly with the irqfd fast path.
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-15 18:47 Virtio-IOMMU interrupt remapping design Demi Marie Obenour
2025-06-16 13:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-16 16:53   ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2025-06-16 17:33     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-17 19:57     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 20:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2025-06-17 23:03         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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