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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	Doug Nelson	 <doug.nelson@intel.com>,
	Mohini Narkhede <mohini.narkhede@intel.com>,
		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Skip sched_balance_running cmpxchg when balance is not due
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:19:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8e47ec72494ba67a4da3c86aeebfb80908d98f40.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <df068896-82f9-458d-8fff-5a2f654e8ffd@amd.com>

On Mon, 2025-11-10 at 09:28 +0530, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Shrikanth,
> 
> On 11/7/2025 2:27 PM, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> > > >   @@ -11768,6 +11784,13 @@ static int sched_balance_rq(int this_cpu, struct rq *this_rq,
> > > >           goto out_balanced;
> > > >       }
> > > >   +    if (idle != CPU_NEWLY_IDLE && (sd->flags & SD_SERIALIZE)) {
> > 
> > Can you also try removing "idle != CPU_NEWLY_IDLE" and see the workload behavior?
> > If workloads don't observe regression, it might be worth serializing it too.
> 
> P.S. In one of my previous testing, I had tested only serialized for
> !env.idle (__CPU_NOT_IDLE) and I didn't spot any difference in my
> benchmark runs compared to always serializing.
> 
> I believe the "max_newidle_lb_cost" along with the plethora of
> need_resched() checks we have help bail out of newidle balance if
> there is a wakeup on the same CPU.
> 
> Idle balance too was okay with a greater number of search. If the
> first CPU of group fails to pull any task and remains idle, all
> the other idle CPUs simply bail out at should_we_balance() which
> is probably why there was no difference in the set of benchmarks I
> tested.
> 
> Serializing all shouldn't make it any worse that what we have now
> so I don't mind either.

Serializing the CPU_NEWLY_IDLE case does not make things worse
from our testing. I will be posting an updated patch shortly.

Tim

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 18:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-06 23:27 [PATCH v3] sched/fair: Skip sched_balance_running cmpxchg when balance is not due Tim Chen
2025-11-07  2:57 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-07  8:57   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-11-07 17:43     ` Tim Chen
2025-11-10  3:58     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-11-10 18:19       ` Tim Chen [this message]
2025-11-07 17:28   ` Tim Chen

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