From: "Zqiang" <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: frederic@kernel.org, neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org,
joelagnelf@nvidia.com, urezki@gmail.com, boqun@kernel.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcutorture: Use __set_current_state() set task state in rcu_nocb_toggle()
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2026 12:05:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8ec6e6f111e19bd489fbd5986e4f01dac68a4351@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a733c594-e856-4abb-9c27-95141413579a@paulmck-laptop>
>
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 01:15:10PM +0000, Zqiang wrote:
>
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 06:11:25PM +0800, Zqiang wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > In the rcu_nocb_toggle(), the schedule_hrtimeout() is called after the
> > > state assignment with no condition check. the release-acquire pair from
> > > raw_spin_unlock/lock(&cpu_base->lock), guarantee that task->__state is
> > > visible to the hrtimer callback:
> > >
> > > CPU0 CPU1
> > > __set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE)
> > > ->WRITE_ONCE(task->__state, TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE)
> > > schedule_hrtimeout
> > > ->hrtimer_sleeper_start_expires()
> > > ->raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&cpu_base->lock)
> > > ....
> > > ->raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cpu_base->lock)
> > >
> > > hard-irq:
> > > raw_spin_lock_irqsave(&cpu_base->lock)
> > > __hrtimer_run_queues
> > > ->__run_hrtimer
> > > ->raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&cpu_base->lock)
> > > ->fn(timer)
> > > ->hrtimer_wakeup
> > > ->wake_up_process
> > > ->try_to_wake_up
> > > ->READ task->__state
> > >
> > > This commit therefore use the __set_current_state() to replace the
> > > set_current_state() in rcu_nocb_toggle().
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>
> > >
> > This looks correct, and either drops an smp_mb() or converts an
> > xchg() to a WRITE_ONCE(), which does decrease overhead. Except that
> > rcu_nocb_toggle() is invoked very infrequently and has high overhead
> > that I would expect to lose this overhead decrease in the noise. And it
> > forces those reading the code to go figure out what is different between
> > set_current_state() and __set_current_state().
> >
> > So I am not convinced to take this patch. But am I missing something here?
> >
> > Nothing was missed, only from memory ordering perspective,
> > using set_current_state() is unnecessary.
> > furthermore, in RCU tasks, we used the following code:
> >
> > __set_current_state(TASK_IDLE); // in this we use __set_current_state()
> > schedule_hrtimeout_range(&exp, jiffies_to_nsecs(HZ / 2), HRTIMER_MODE_REL_HARD);
> >
> > Or perhaps we could also add a comment something like this(kernel/time/sleep_timeout.c):
> >
> > /*
> > * __set_current_state() can be used in schedule_timeout_*() functions, because
> > * schedule_timeout() calls schedule() unconditionally.
> > */
> >
> Would it make sense for a variant of schedule_hrtimeout_range() to take an
> TASK_* argument and then use __set_current_state() internally? That would
> get you the performance increase across all calls, but avoid bothering
> the typical user with the difference between __set_current_state() vs.
> set_current_state().
This is a good idea.
Thanks
Zqiang
>
> Thanx, Paul
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Zqiang
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanx, Paul
> >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c | 2 +-
> > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > index b1bab59efde5..a0e6901e0f90 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/rcu/rcutorture.c
> > > @@ -2947,7 +2947,7 @@ static int rcu_nocb_toggle(void *arg)
> > > atomic_long_inc(&n_nocb_deoffload);
> > > }
> > > toggle_delay = torture_random(&rand) % toggle_fuzz + toggle_interval;
> > > - set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> > > + __set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> > > schedule_hrtimeout(&toggle_delay, HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
> > > if (stutter_wait("rcu_nocb_toggle"))
> > > sched_set_normal(current, oldnice);
> > > --
> > > 2.17.1
> > >
> >
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-09 12:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-02 10:11 [PATCH] rcutorture: Use __set_current_state() set task state in rcu_nocb_toggle() Zqiang
2026-07-06 18:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-07 13:15 ` Zqiang
2026-07-07 16:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-07-09 12:05 ` Zqiang [this message]
2026-07-07 15:36 ` Alan Huang
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