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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: RLIM_INFINITY inconsistency between archs
Date: 31 Jul 2000 17:17:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8m54u3$dh0$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8m4uri$d9e$1@enterprise.cistron.net

Followup to:  <8m4uri$d9e$1@enterprise.cistron.net>
By author:    miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> >> Everything in /usr/include belongs to and depends on glibc, not
> >> the currently running kernel.
> >
> >Unfortunately that doesn't work very well.  For user-space daemons
> >which talk to Linux-specific kernel interfaces, such as automount, you
> >need both the glibc and the Linux kernel headers.
> 
> Yes, but you can't mix&match anyway. For stuff like that you're
> probably best off by using a talktokernel.c file that is
> compiled with -I/path/to/kernel/include while the rest of the
> daemon doesn't know about kernel internals.
> 
> That could and perhaps should be fixed, but I think that is
> a different issue entirely.
> 

For most kernel interface daemons, that is not an option.  You need to
be able to translate (or just transfer information) between
glibc-provided and kernel-provided data structures, so you need to be
able to include all the datatypes.

Let's get this straight: #include <linux/*> and #include <asm/*> are
*expected* to be the kernel headers.  This is a completely different
issue from the fact that glibc headers shouldn't #include these
headers like libc5 did.

	-hpa

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-07-31 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200007271459.KAA04701@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU>
     [not found] ` <200007271531.KAA89926@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
2000-07-31 14:57   ` RLIM_INFINITY inconsistency between archs Kai Henningsen
2000-07-31 17:35     ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-07-31 20:06       ` Mike Galbraith
2000-07-31 21:15       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-07-31 21:49         ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-07-31 22:39           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-07-31 22:13         ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-07-31 22:33           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01  0:17             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2000-08-01  0:43               ` wingel
2000-08-01  1:00                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01  2:06                   ` wingel
2000-08-01  9:36               ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01 17:03                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 21:50                   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01  2:18           ` Mike Castle
2000-08-01  2:30             ` wingel
2000-08-01 23:55               ` Mike Castle
2000-08-02  0:18                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-02  9:28                   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-04  1:07                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 17:03             ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01  2:11         ` Mike Castle
2000-08-01  9:38           ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01 23:44             ` Mike Castle
2000-08-02 18:16     ` peter swain
2000-07-31 17:31 Jesse Pollard
     [not found] <20000728112353Z160228-16385+645@vger.rutgers.edu>
2000-07-31 15:26 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-08-01  7:53   ` David Howells
2000-08-01 18:15     ` Kai Henningsen
2000-08-02  6:52     ` wingel
     [not found] <FyFI8n.IpM@spuddy.mew.co.uk>
2000-07-29 10:34 ` Stephen Harris
     [not found] <200007281315.OAA30398@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2000-07-29  1:09 ` David Howells
     [not found] <200007272122.RAA04791@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU>
     [not found] ` <m2hf9bnm95.fsf@euler.axel.nom>
     [not found]   ` <20000728162225.A4317@saw.sw.com.sg>
2000-07-29  0:51     ` Mike Castle
     [not found] <no.id>
2000-07-28 22:10 ` Adam Sampson
2000-07-28 22:20 ` Adam Sampson
2000-07-29 13:23   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
     [not found] <3981ED0C.CBE0A0F9@transmeta.com>
2000-07-28 21:02 ` Khimenko Victor
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007280808460.73-100000@rc.priv.hereintown.net>
2000-07-28 20:56 ` Stuart Lynne
2000-07-28 20:13   ` clubneon
     [not found] <E13HsBT-00033e-00@the-village.bc.nu>
     [not found] ` <200007281405.JAA101655@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
2000-07-28 14:11   ` Jamie Lokier

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