From: miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
To: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: RLIM_INFINITY inconsistency between archs
Date: 1 Aug 2000 21:50:47 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8m7gnn$c8k$1@enterprise.cistron.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8m6vsk$er6$1@cesium.transmeta.com
In article >8m6vsk$er6$1@cesium.transmeta.com>,
H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>Followup to: <8m65np$mm3$1@enterprise.cistron.net>
>By author: miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
>In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>>
>> Why? As I said you can use a glue layer. Note that you still
>> cannot mix /usr/include/net and /usr/src/linux/include/net anyway,
>> so clashes will always exist with the current system.
>> I agree it should probably be fixed.
>
>A GLUE LAYER IS FREQUENTLY NOT AN OPTION,
No need to shout, I did say I agreed with you ;)
>because you have no data
>types to carry around the semantic contents in. You really *DO* need
>to mix both types.
Yes. So it should be fixed, right? Perhaps in 2.5 then we should
look into:
- moving kernel headers around: linux/include now contains
o linux
o asm
o net
o scsi
o video
To make sure we _can_ use libc headers and kernel headers we must
eliminate clashes. linux/include/net isn't the same as /usr/include/net,
same goes for /usr/include/scsi etc. So it's probably best to move
everything one level to:
o linux/kernel/*.h (this was most of linux/*.h)
o linux/public/*.h (contains public interfaces to the kernel)
o linux/asm/*.h
o linux/net/*.h
o linux/scsi/*.h
o linux/video/*.h
Hmm, perhaps that is not nessecary. If we're going to have a
linux/public hierarchy, you wouldn't need the rest of the
headers anyway, so they don't need to be moved. Cool ;)
- We need a script in /lib/modules/version/kernel-config that prints
the CFLAGS used to compile that kernel on stdout to compile modules.
Now, I think that all of this has been mentioned before on this
list, those are not completely my ideas. Somebody mentioned marking
structures/defines/etc that need to be exported with a special
comment so that a script could generate a set of headers with the
public interfaces. That is about the same as the public/ idea,
and perhaps a bit easier, since it wouldn't annoy the hell out
of all those device driver writers that see the interface change again..
Mike.
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[not found] <200007271459.KAA04701@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU>
[not found] ` <200007271531.KAA89926@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
2000-07-31 14:57 ` RLIM_INFINITY inconsistency between archs Kai Henningsen
2000-07-31 17:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-07-31 20:06 ` Mike Galbraith
2000-07-31 21:15 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-07-31 21:49 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-07-31 22:39 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-07-31 22:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-07-31 22:33 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 0:43 ` wingel
2000-08-01 1:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 2:06 ` wingel
2000-08-01 9:36 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01 17:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 21:50 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg [this message]
2000-08-01 2:18 ` Mike Castle
2000-08-01 2:30 ` wingel
2000-08-01 23:55 ` Mike Castle
2000-08-02 0:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-02 9:28 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-04 1:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 17:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-08-01 2:11 ` Mike Castle
2000-08-01 9:38 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-08-01 23:44 ` Mike Castle
2000-08-02 18:16 ` peter swain
2000-07-31 17:31 Jesse Pollard
[not found] <20000728112353Z160228-16385+645@vger.rutgers.edu>
2000-07-31 15:26 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-08-01 7:53 ` David Howells
2000-08-01 18:15 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-08-02 6:52 ` wingel
[not found] <FyFI8n.IpM@spuddy.mew.co.uk>
2000-07-29 10:34 ` Stephen Harris
[not found] <200007281315.OAA30398@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
2000-07-29 1:09 ` David Howells
[not found] <200007272122.RAA04791@tsx-prime.MIT.EDU>
[not found] ` <m2hf9bnm95.fsf@euler.axel.nom>
[not found] ` <20000728162225.A4317@saw.sw.com.sg>
2000-07-29 0:51 ` Mike Castle
[not found] <no.id>
2000-07-28 22:10 ` Adam Sampson
2000-07-28 22:20 ` Adam Sampson
2000-07-29 13:23 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
[not found] <3981ED0C.CBE0A0F9@transmeta.com>
2000-07-28 21:02 ` Khimenko Victor
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007280808460.73-100000@rc.priv.hereintown.net>
2000-07-28 20:56 ` Stuart Lynne
2000-07-28 20:13 ` clubneon
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[not found] ` <200007281405.JAA101655@tomcat.admin.navo.hpc.mil>
2000-07-28 14:11 ` Jamie Lokier
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