From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/random probs in 2.4test(12-pre3)
Date: 2 Dec 2000 23:16:20 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <90cs04$6td$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10012021108350.31306-100000@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012021955570.11787-100000@server.serve.me.nl>
Followup to: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012021955570.11787-100000@server.serve.me.nl>
By author: Igmar Palsenberg <maillist@chello.nl>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> > Indeed, you are correct. Is vpnd broken then, for assuming
> > that it can gather the required randomness in one read?
>
> Yep. It assumes that if the required randommness numbers aren't met a read
> to /dev/random will block.
>
> And it's not the only program that assumes this : I also did.
>
> /dev/random is called a blocking random device, which more or less implies
> that it will totally block. I suggest we put this somewhere in the kernel
> docs, since lots of people out there assume that it totally blocks.
>
That's pretty much ALWAYS wrong -- for pipes, sockets, you name it. A
blocking read() will only block if there is nothing to read at all.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-12-03 7:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-12-01 17:33 /dev/random probs in 2.4test(12-pre3) folkert
2000-12-02 11:09 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2000-12-02 18:58 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 18:03 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-12-02 21:32 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 20:42 ` David Ford
2000-12-02 22:00 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-02 23:18 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-02 23:34 ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-03 3:01 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-03 12:20 ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-03 16:32 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 7:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-03 7:41 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-03 16:25 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 18:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-12-03 21:18 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 20:15 ` David Ford
2000-12-03 7:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-19 19:24 ` Kai Henningsen
2000-12-02 21:35 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 20:44 ` David Ford
2000-12-03 16:27 ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 7:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-03 7:16 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
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2000-12-01 17:26 Matthew Kirkwood
2000-12-01 18:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-02 12:01 ` Matthew Kirkwood
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