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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/random probs in 2.4test(12-pre3)
Date: 2 Dec 2000 23:17:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90cs2v$6u6$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001202115753.27887T-100000@mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012022229580.11907-100000@server.serve.me.nl>

Followup to:  <Pine.LNX.4.21.0012022229580.11907-100000@server.serve.me.nl>
By author:    Igmar Palsenberg <maillist@chello.nl>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> > For a blocking fd, read(2) has always blocked until some data is
> > available.  There has never been a guarantee, for any driver, that
> > a read(2) will return the full amount of bytes requested.
> 
> I know. Still leaves lot's of people that assume that reading /dev/random
> will return data, or will block.
> 
> I've seen lots of programs that will assume that if we request x bytes
> from /dev/random it will return x bytes.
> 

Again, that's wrong even when you replace /dev/random with something
else.  After all, you could be getting EINTR at any time, too, or get
interrupted by a signal in the middle (in which case you'd get a short
read.)

SUCH CODE IS BROKEN.  PERIOD.  FULL STOP.

	-hpa
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-12-03  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-01 17:33 /dev/random probs in 2.4test(12-pre3) folkert
2000-12-02 11:09 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2000-12-02 18:58   ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 18:03     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-12-02 21:32       ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 20:42         ` David Ford
2000-12-02 22:00           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-02 23:18             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-02 23:34               ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-03  3:01                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-12-03 12:20                 ` Andrew Morton
2000-12-03 16:32               ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03  7:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-03  7:41               ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-12-03 16:25           ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 18:52             ` Jeff Garzik
2000-12-03 21:18               ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03 20:15                 ` David Ford
2000-12-03  7:17         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2000-12-19 19:24           ` Kai Henningsen
2000-12-02 21:35       ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-02 20:44         ` David Ford
2000-12-03 16:27           ` Igmar Palsenberg
2000-12-03  7:19         ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-03  7:16     ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-01 17:26 Matthew Kirkwood
2000-12-01 18:18 ` H. Peter Anvin
2000-12-02 12:01   ` Matthew Kirkwood

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