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From: miquels@cistron.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Serial Console
Date: 5 Dec 2000 17:00:06 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90j6um$cji$1@enterprise.cistron.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0012051506030.31704-100000@rossi.itg.ie> <200012051625.RAA02860@cave.bitwizard.nl>

In article <200012051625.RAA02860@cave.bitwizard.nl>,
Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl> wrote:
>Paul Jakma wrote:
>> perhaps linux-mips is just different? or i386 serial-console is
>> incorrect?
>
>No. serial console on i386 doesn't and should not block. 
>We're constantly using serial consoles here, so I really think I've 
>seen this work... .

It can block.

Funny, no message on this list has been quite right ;)

/dev/console can block
/dev/ttyS0   can block
printk()     never blocks

init(8) reads the tty settings from /etc/ioctl.save at startup.
After it leaves single user mode it writes that file again. So
mods made in single user mode are saved to /etc/ioctl.save.
Every time init executes a program, it restores the console
settings to those from /etc/ioctl.save.
[Perhaps I should rip that stuff out]

However a getty on /dev/ttyS0 which you usually have running in
runlevels [12345789] can change the tty settings and they will
take effect immidiately. So if you run a getty that turns on
hardware handshaking (like mgetty) - you're fscked.

The only things in which /dev/console is special are:

- it's an alias for the current console
- it's always opened with O_NOCTTY

Mike.
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-05 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-12-05 12:04 Serial Console Steve Hill
2000-12-05 12:11 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-05 14:44 ` Paul Jakma
2000-12-05 14:58   ` Steve Hill
2000-12-05 15:07     ` Chad Schwartz
2000-12-05 15:14     ` Paul Jakma
2000-12-05 15:28       ` Steve Hill
2000-12-05 15:38         ` Chad Schwartz
2000-12-05 16:25       ` Rogier Wolff
2000-12-05 17:00         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg [this message]
2000-12-06 13:09 ` Vitaly Luban
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-12-05 15:20 Jon Burgess
2000-12-05 16:03 ` Chad Schwartz
2000-12-05 18:09 Jon Burgess
     [not found] <200208191108120240.0D409F0A@192.168.128.16>
2002-08-19  9:10 ` Carlos Velasco
2002-08-19  9:18   ` Russell King
     [not found] <3174569B9743D511922F00A0C943142309F80D9F@TYANWEB>
     [not found] ` <20050516205731.GA5914@waste.org>
2005-05-16 23:15   ` serial console Matt Mackall
2005-05-16 23:37     ` Andrew Morton
2005-05-16 23:47       ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-17  1:24         ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-05-17  2:26           ` Matt Mackall
2005-05-17  2:40             ` Coywolf Qi Hunt
2005-05-17  2:19     ` Rob Landley

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