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From: "Moger, Babu" <babu.moger@amd.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 17/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of the groups
Date: Mon, 6 May 2024 13:09:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91ccdf56-1a33-437e-9a55-ae2e1e89fa8d@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <330e3391-b917-4a88-bae3-bdcbb8cfd6f4@intel.com>

Hi Reinette,

On 5/3/24 16:16, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Babu,
> 
> On 5/3/2024 9:14 AM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>> On 5/2/2024 6:00 PM, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2024 3:52 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2024 3:56 PM, Peter Newman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 12:39 PM Moger, Babu <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/17/24 12:45, Peter Newman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 6:10 PM Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst b/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>>>>> index 2d96565501ab..64ec70637c66 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>>>>> +++ b/Documentation/arch/x86/resctrl.rst
>>>>>>>> @@ -328,6 +328,77 @@ with the following files:
>>>>>>>>            None of events are assigned on this mon group. This is a child
>>>>>>>>            monitor group of the non default control mon group.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +       Assignment state can be updated by writing to this interface.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +       NOTE: Assignment on one domain applied on all the domains. User can
>>>>>>>> +       pass one valid domain and assignment will be updated on all the
>>>>>>>> +       available domains.
>>>>>>> How would different assignments to different domains work? If the
>>>>>>> allocations are global, then the allocated monitor ID is available to
>>>>>>> all domains whether they use it or not.
>>>>>> That is correct.
>>>>>> [A] Hardware counters(max 2 per group) are allocated at the group level.
>>>>>> So, those counters are available to all the domains on that group. I will
>>>>>> maintain a bitmap at the domain level. The bitmap will be set on the
>>>>>> domains where assignment is applied and IPIs are sent. IPIs will not be
>>>>>> sent to other domains.
>>>>> Unless the monitor allocation is scoped at the domain level, I don't
>>>>> see much point in implementing the per-domain parsing today, as the
>>>>> only benefit is avoiding IPIs to domains whose counters you don't plan
>>>>> to read.
>>>>
>>>> In that case lets remove the domain specific assignments. We can avoid some code complexity.
>>>>
>>>
>>> As I understand counters are scoped at the domain level and it is
>>> an implementation choice to make the allocation global. (Similar to
>>> the decision to make CLOSIDs global.)
>>>
>>> Could you please elaborate how you plan to remove domain specific
>>> assignments? I do think it needs to remain as part of the user interface
>>> so I wonder if this may look like only "*=<flags>" is supported on
>>> these systems and attempting to assign an individual domain may fail
>>> with "not supported".
>>
>> This series applies the assignment to all the domains.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> # echo "//0=t" > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
>>
>> User here wants to assign a monitor to total event on domain 0.
>> But this series applies monitor to all the domains in the system. IPIs will be sent to all the domains.
> 
> I would like to recommend against this. (a) this is not what the API
> says will happen, (b) behavior like this may result in users having scripts
> with syntax like above expecting changes to all domains and when/if
> AMD or another architecture decides to implement per-domain assignment
> it will break user space.

Sure. We keep per-domain specific assignment.

"//0=t"   This will apply assignment only domain 0.
"//*=t"   This will apply assignment one all the domains.

Hope it clarifies.

> 
>> Basically this is equivalent to
>>
>> # echo "//*=t" > /sys/fs/resctrl/info/L3_MON/mbm_assign_control
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of adding domain specific assignment in next version.
>> That involves adding a new field in rdt_domain to keep track of
>> assignment. Peter suggested it may not be much of a value add for his
>> usage model.
> 
> I do not have insight into how all users will end up using this.
> 
> Reinette
> 

-- 
Thanks
Babu Moger

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-06 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-29  1:06 [RFC PATCH v3 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/17] x86/resctrl: Add support for " Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 17:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/17] x86/resctrl: Add ABMC feature in the command line options Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/17] x86/resctrl: Detect Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring feature details Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 19:09     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 22:34         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  3:18           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10 17:01             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10 18:34               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-11  1:40                 ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce resctrl_file_fflags_init Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 20:23     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10  0:23         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface to display the assignment state Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:28   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 16:28     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to display number of ABMC counters Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/17] x86/resctrl: Add support to enable/disable ABMC feature Babu Moger
2024-04-04  0:30   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-04 15:16     ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-04 17:36       ` Peter Newman
2024-04-04 18:35         ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-04 18:43     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-04 19:01       ` Peter Newman
2024-05-16 20:03     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 23:30   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 19:12     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:32       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 21:45         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/17] x86/resctrl: Initialize assignable counters bitmap Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:31   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 20:03     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce assign state for the mon group Babu Moger
2024-04-16 18:52   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-16 19:52     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/17] x86/resctrl: Add data structures for ABMC assignment Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:32   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-07 20:40     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 23:06       ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-10  0:28         ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce mbm_total_cfg and mbm_local_cfg Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 15:57     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/17] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to assign the RMID Babu Moger
2024-05-03 23:33   ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 17:40     ` Moger, Babu
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/17] x86/resctrl: Add the functionality to unassign " Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/17] x86/resctrl: Enable ABMC by default on resctrl mount Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce the interface switch between ABMC and legacy_mbm Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to list assignment states of all the groups Babu Moger
2024-03-29  1:06 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/17] x86/resctrl: Introduce interface to modify assignment states of " Babu Moger
2024-04-17 17:45   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-17 19:39     ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-17 20:56       ` Peter Newman
2024-04-17 22:52         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 23:00           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 16:14             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 21:16               ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 18:09                 ` Moger, Babu [this message]
2024-05-02 16:21   ` Dave Martin
2024-05-02 17:52     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-02 18:11       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 14:53       ` Dave Martin
2024-05-03 21:15         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-04 19:08 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/17] x86/resctrl : Support AMD Assignable Bandwidth Monitoring Counters (ABMC) Peter Newman
2024-04-04 20:02   ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 16:34     ` Dave Martin
2024-04-22 20:44       ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-23 12:37         ` Dave Martin
2024-04-24  4:15           ` Reinette Chatre
2024-04-24 14:16             ` Dave Martin
2024-04-24 19:10               ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-22 16:33 ` Dave Martin
2024-04-22 18:23   ` Peter Newman
2024-04-23 12:38     ` Dave Martin
2024-04-23 15:43       ` Moger, Babu
2024-04-23 16:17         ` Dave Martin
2024-05-01 17:48 ` Peter Newman
2024-05-02 16:25   ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 17:50     ` Peter Newman
2024-05-02 20:14       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-02 23:21         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03  0:57           ` Peter Newman
2024-05-03 20:44             ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-03 21:00               ` Peter Newman
2024-05-03 21:15                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-17 21:51                   ` Peter Newman
2024-05-20 14:25                     ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-20 16:00                       ` Peter Newman
2024-05-20 18:03                         ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  0:57               ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-10  2:47                 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 21:14             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-03 23:24 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-06 17:18   ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-07 20:26     ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 20:07       ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-08 20:41         ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-08 23:29           ` Moger, Babu
2024-05-09 18:07             ` Reinette Chatre
2024-05-09 20:34               ` Moger, Babu

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