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From: miquels@traveler.cistron-office.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linus's include file strategy redux
Date: 16 Dec 2000 11:09:49 GMT	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <91fiht$7ve$1@enterprise.cistron.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91e0so$9bn$1@enterprise.cistron.net> <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001215194935.19208D-100000@tarot.mentasm.org>

In article <Pine.LNX.3.96.1001215194935.19208D-100000@tarot.mentasm.org>,
 <ferret@phonewave.net> wrote:
>On 15 Dec 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>
>> I think /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ should contain a script that
>> reproduces the CFLAGS used to compile the kernel.
>
>However it happens, the necessary information THAT I KNOW OF is:
>0) The kernel headers under linux/include
>1) The state information generated by running make configure ; make dep ;
>make clean -OR- equivalently by Debian's make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg
>configure which does the same thing but adds packaging-specific metadata.

That state info is in ARCH, CFLAGS, CC and include/linux/autoconf.h

>A SYMLINK from /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ into /path/to/kernel-`uname -r`
>will not always work, because:
>0) The destination may not even exist (if the kernel has been installed
>onto another machine)

Yes but in that case, how are you going to compile a module without
the kernel headers anyway. If you compiled a kernel on one
machine and you know that you want to be able to compile modules
on the second machine you need to copy over /usr/src/linux-x.y.z/include
as well.

>1) The destination has no metadata or has the WRONG metadata (if I've just
>compiled and installed 2.4.0-test11 on my i386, then am now building same
>for my sun4c)

As I said the kconfig script should do some simple sanity checks-
compare version and architecture at least.

>I have been recently told that a full copy of kernel headers and metadata
>in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ isn't going to work either, but the gentleman
>who informed me of this hasn't yet shown why.

Because lots of use have a small root file system of just 30 MB ?

Hmm, but as soon as you start thinking about cross-compiles etc
you need more and more state - like CROSS_COMPILE, AS, LD, CPP, AR,
NM etc etc. Yuck. It would probably be better to put all that info
in /usr/src/linux/Config.make, and use the current "build" symlink.
A module makefile would then look like this:

#! /usr/bin/make -f

# You might want to point BUILD somewhere else.
BUILD = /lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)/build
include $(BUILD)/Config.make

module.o:
	$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -c module.c

Ah yes, this is probably a much better approach then a kconfig script

Mike.
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-12-16 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <91gr99$bs81o$1@fido.engr.sgi.com>
2000-12-14 23:55 ` Linus's include file strategy redux LA Walsh
2000-12-15  0:14   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:17     ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:39       ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-15  0:33     ` Alan Cox
2000-12-15  0:48       ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  0:56         ` David Riley
2000-12-15  1:05           ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  4:24             ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:30       ` Marcus Sundberg
2000-12-15 14:57     ` Kurt Roeckx
2000-12-15 15:23       ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-15 22:28         ` Alex Buell
2000-12-16 22:41         ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 15:51           ` Dana Lacoste
2000-12-18 17:08             ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-18 19:32             ` David Schleef
2000-12-18 17:04         ` richard offer
2000-12-19  5:16           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15  0:15   ` Alexander Viro
2000-12-15  7:21     ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 11:05       ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-12-15 14:21     ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 17:15       ` ferret
2000-12-15 17:46         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 20:29           ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 21:27             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 22:58               ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-15 23:56                 ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16 22:50                 ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  0:04                   ` Joe deBlaquiere
2000-12-17  2:05                     ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 18:10       ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 21:02         ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-16  4:04           ` ferret
2000-12-16 11:09             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg [this message]
2000-12-16 17:20               ` ferret
2000-12-17  0:21                 ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-16 23:10           ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-17  1:15             ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2000-12-17  2:18               ` Peter Samuelson
2000-12-15 21:21         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-15 21:36           ` LA Walsh
2000-12-15 22:48           ` J . A . Magallon
2000-12-15 23:47             ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-16  4:11             ` ferret
2000-12-16  2:50         ` richard offer
2000-12-16  4:22           ` What about 'kernel package'? was: " ferret
2000-12-15 19:35       ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-12-15 21:36         ` Werner Almesberger
2000-12-18 17:48 Petr Vandrovec

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