From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: Tomas Melin <tomas.melin@vaisala.com>,
Michael Hennerich <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
Nuno Sa <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>,
Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>,
Olivier Moysan <olivier.moysan@foss.st.com>
Cc: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] iio: adc: ad9467: check for backend capabilities
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 11:54:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9214d1ba49ee31e4f35d8d3fe5d894142e1d6fef.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68cee45e-4822-41af-a0da-d1b88166425d@vaisala.com>
On Wed, 2026-01-14 at 17:23 +0200, Tomas Melin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 14/01/2026 14:29, Nuno Sá wrote:
> > On Wed, 2026-01-14 at 10:45 +0000, Tomas Melin wrote:
> > > Add capability checks for operation with backends that do not support
> > > full set of features, but are otherwise compatible with the device.
> > >
>
> > > + return 0;
> > > +
> >
> > As David suggested, it might make more sense to do the check from the callers. Not as
> > important as within the backend functions though.
> >
> > > /* all points invalid */
> > > bitmap_fill(st->calib_map, st->calib_map_size);
> > >
> > > @@ -1357,7 +1366,7 @@ static int ad9467_probe(struct spi_device *spi)
> > > return ret;
> > >
> > > ret = devm_iio_backend_request_buffer(&spi->dev, st->back, indio_dev);
> > > - if (ret)
> > > + if (ret && ret != -EOPNOTSUPP)
> > > return ret;
> >
> > Don't agree with the above. I would prefer to see a dedicated CAP for buffering
> > otherwise I would argue why not doing the same for everything? While it might
> > be acceptable merging IIO_BACKEND_CAP_TEST_PATTERNS and IIO_BACKEND_CAP_CALIBRATION
> > (given they are related to some extent), that does not apply to buffering.
>
> Okay perhaps we first need to agree on how we define a capability;)
>
> So my thinking here was that calibration capability expands across
> several or even many op calls, so it's a feature level thing and
> requires several coordinated functions. So does the test pattern, but
> it's a sub entity of the calibration so I merged the two together. So
> checking for a capability in these cases makes sense, since checking
> against a single operation call for determining if the capability is
> present is not easy and which function would it be, etc.
Makes sense.
>
> The backend buffer on the other hand maps to a single op call (in theory
> two). So checking for that buffering capability can be done by checking
> if the op call is supported (eopnotsupp). I was kindof thinking that why
> need a capability if the mapping is 1:1 and the information is available
> through that error value directly?
Yeah, TBH the only reason I can think of is readability. To me, it is more
explicit:
if (has_buffering())
request_buffer(); //not allowed to fail
And can be a bit confusing having a mix of has_capability() and checking for
error codes.
But yes, checking for specific error codes for determining behavior is a common
pattern so I won't be nitpicky about it.
>
> On frontend level, like here it is known that the driver can function
> without that buffering, so if the backend does not supported it can be
> okay to proceed.
> If we add a capability for a single operation that has 1:1 mapping then
> basically we should map all and that is not really the point?
> I see the capability like a contract between the backend and frontend on
> feature level, that the feature is there but the implementation of a
> specific capability might actually differ depending on the use case
> (like we see with ad9467 and ad485x calibration and their backends)
>
> What are your thoughts about this?
>
Ok, I think it makes sense to me but maybe we should be more explicit/clear in
the docs:
"... meaning that a capability requires certain
operations to be implemented by the backend"
Maybe s/certain/multiple and we could even mention that if a frontend is interested
in knowing that a operation is not supported, the error code can be checked
(though this could be obvious already).
Let's see what Jonathan and others thinks about it.
- Nuno Sá
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-15 11:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-14 10:45 [PATCH v3 0/4] iio: adc: ad9467: Support alternative backends Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] iio: adc: ad9467: include two's complement in default mode Tomas Melin
2026-01-16 18:39 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-14 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] iio: industrialio-backend: support backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 12:20 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-19 13:49 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-19 15:00 ` David Lechner
2026-01-20 6:45 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 12:28 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-15 7:48 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 13:19 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-14 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] iio: adc: adi-axi-adc: define supported iio-backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] iio: adc: ad9467: check for backend capabilities Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 12:29 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-14 15:23 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-15 11:54 ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2026-01-16 18:32 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-19 11:55 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 12:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-14 15:24 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-14 13:38 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-14 13:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] iio: adc: ad9467: Support alternative backends Nuno Sá
2026-01-14 15:32 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-15 12:04 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-15 13:30 ` Tomas Melin
2026-01-16 13:31 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-16 18:37 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-01-18 9:21 ` Nuno Sá
2026-01-20 11:01 ` Tomas Melin
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