From: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
Xuan Baldauf <xuan--lkml@baldauf.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andrea@suse.de,
"reiserfs-list@namesys.com" <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>
Subject: Re: VM deadlock
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 16:24:10 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <933130000.993673450@tiny> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33L.0106271641570.23373-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
On Wednesday, June 27, 2001 04:43:28 PM -0300 Rik van Riel
<riel@conectiva.com.br> wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Chris Mason wrote:
>
>> Reiserfs expects write_inode() calls initiated by kswapd to
>> always have sync==0. Otherwise, kswapd ends up waiting on the
>> log, which isn't what we want at all.
>
> If you don't have free memory, you are limited to 2 choices:
>
> 1) wait on IO
> 2) spin endlessly, wasting CPU until the IO is done
>
> If (1) isn't possible in reiserfs, I'd say something in
> reiserfs needs to be fixed, otherwise you will always
> have problems when the system has lots of dirty mappings
> that need to be written out.
>
Ok, I need to describe the problem a little better. reiserfs inodes need
to be logged, which means you have to join/start a transaction in order to
write them.
So, if kswapd tries to write them, it might end up waiting on the log.
Normally this is not a big deal, but almost allocations in reiserfs use
GFP_BUFFER, which means we never end up doing i/o ourselves in
page_launder, and always end up waiting on kswapd. So, kswapd waits on
reiserfs and reiserfs waits on kswapd (none of these are spin locks ;-)
The work around I've been using is the dirty_inode method. Whenever
mark_inode_dirty is called, reiserfs logs the dirty inode. This means
inode changes are _always_ reflected in the buffer cache right away, and
the inode itself is never actually dirty.
So, the only time reiserfs_write_inode needs to do something is for fsync
and/or O_SYNC writes, and all it needs to do is commit the transaction.
Any time kswapd is calling write_inode, it is just trying to free the inode
struct, and reiserfs can safely ignore the write request, regardless of if
a sync is requested.
-chris
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-06-27 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-06-27 14:27 VM deadlock Xuan Baldauf
2001-06-27 13:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-27 16:13 ` Xuan Baldauf
2001-06-27 15:09 ` Chris Mason
2001-06-27 16:20 ` Xuan Baldauf
2001-06-27 17:43 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-27 19:36 ` Chris Mason
2001-06-27 19:43 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-27 20:24 ` Chris Mason [this message]
2001-06-27 20:36 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-27 20:52 ` Chris Mason
2001-06-28 3:21 ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-28 12:53 ` Chris Mason
2001-06-28 14:08 ` Andrew Morton
2001-06-28 14:25 ` Chris Mason
2001-06-27 19:50 ` [reiserfs-list] " Xuan Baldauf
2001-06-27 18:16 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-27 18:38 ` Chris Mason
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