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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Hari Vyas <hari.vyas@broadcom.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	ray.jui@broadcom.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] pci: Proof of concept at fixing pci_enable_device/bridge races
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 09:38:41 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <947d07eb6bc64eefe5cfd9a08420a33f855cbe2c.camel@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180815224028.GA12104@roeck-us.net>

On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 15:40 -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 07:50:13AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > (Resent with lkml on copy)
> > 
> > [Note: This isn't meant to be merged, it need splitting at the very
> > least, see below]
> > 
> > This is something I cooked up quickly today to test if that would fix
> > my problems with large number of switch and NVME devices on POWER.
> > 
> 
> Is that a problem that can be reproduced with a qemu setup ?

With difficulty... mt-tcg might help, but you need a rather large
systems to reproduce it.

My repro-case is a 2 socket POWER9 system (about 40 cores off the top
of my mind, so 160 threads) with 72 NVME devices underneath a tree of
switches (I don't have the system at hand today to check how many).

It's possible to observe it I suppose on a smaller system (in theory a
single bridge with 2 devices is enough) but in practice the timing is
extremely hard to hit.

You need a combination of:

  - The bridges come up disabled (which is the case when Linux does the
resource assignment, such as on POWER but not on x86 unless it's
hotplug)

  - The nvme devices try to enable them simultaneously

Also the resulting error is a UR, I don't know how well qemu models
that.

On the above system, I get usually *one* device failing due to the race
out of 72, and not on every boot.

However, the bug is known (see Bjorn's reply to the other thread) "Re:
PCIe enable device races (Was: [PATCH v3] PCI: Data corruption
happening due to race condition)" on linux-pci, so I'm not the only one
with a repro-case around.

Cheers,
Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-15 23:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20180731163727.GK45322@bhelgaas-glaptop.roam.corp.google.com>
     [not found]   ` <ecaed7664b46d73888d2494065905f8e108fc0f4.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
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     [not found]       ` <58192cf94de3941f9141aa3203399ae2bcdf6b7a.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
2018-08-15 21:50         ` [RFC PATCH] pci: Proof of concept at fixing pci_enable_device/bridge races Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-15 22:40           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-08-15 23:38             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2018-08-20  1:31               ` Guenter Roeck
2018-08-17  3:07           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-08-17  3:42             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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