From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: rmeijer@xs4all.nl, Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>
Cc: rmeijer@xs4all.nl, casey@schaufler-ca.com,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:27:23 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <949883.45076.qm@web36602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10965.80.126.27.205.1193684677.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl>
--- Rob Meijer <capibara@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > * The proposal only allows a single implementation of each formal
> > model. In theory, theory is just like practice, but in practice it
> > is not. SMACK and SELinux follow substantially similar formal
> > models (not exactly the same) so should we exclude one and keep
> > the other? No, of course not, because in practice they are very
> > different.
>
> I would think the two may benefit from a role as described above.
> But I was thinking more in the line of new modules that may again
> implement this same model, and would thus benefit from interaction with
> this 'model maintainer' role.
The Smack development has benefited greatly from comments, suggestions,
and bug reports from members of the SELinux community. Further, I have
had no trouble whatever sharing the netlabel component with SELinux.
Audit is another matter as it requires some work to get the SELinux
dependencies out, but everyone's been receptive to proposals there.
Why on earth would I want some 'model maintainer' passing judgements
on my work in progress? The only thing I can imagine a 'model
maintainer' doing is obstructing innovation. Unless it was me, of
course. Linus is right, you know.
Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-29 20:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-29 19:04 Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 19:41 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 5:13 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-30 7:14 ` Defense in depth: LSM *modules*, not a static interface Cliffe
2007-10-30 6:55 ` Al Viro
2007-10-30 7:55 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 15:01 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 8:00 ` Cliffe
2007-10-30 12:30 ` Simon Arlott
2007-11-06 3:46 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-11-06 7:26 ` Cliffe
2007-11-06 23:59 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-07 3:50 ` Cliffe
2007-11-07 3:35 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-07 4:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-07 4:34 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-07 4:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 18:42 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 19:14 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 19:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 23:38 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 0:16 ` david
2007-10-31 2:21 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 3:43 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-31 5:08 ` david
2007-10-31 6:43 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-31 9:03 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 10:10 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-11-01 2:04 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 2:20 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-01 2:51 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01 7:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-01 11:49 ` David Newall
2007-11-04 1:28 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-05 6:56 ` Andrew Morgan
2007-11-05 13:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-29 20:27 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-29 10:01 Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 10:24 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 13:32 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-18 2:18 LSM conversion to static interface Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57 ` James Morris
2007-10-23 4:09 ` LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch] Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23 5:16 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-24 0:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24 5:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-24 11:50 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 12:55 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 18:11 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 18:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 18:59 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 19:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 21:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-24 21:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 22:02 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 23:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-25 1:50 ` david
2007-10-25 3:50 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:04 ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-25 11:38 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 20:18 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-24 20:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 22:58 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 23:32 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 23:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25 0:41 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 2:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 3:37 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 1:03 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-25 0:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25 0:35 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 1:26 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-25 1:41 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-25 2:11 ` david
2007-10-25 18:17 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 22:21 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26 3:45 ` david
2007-10-26 5:44 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-27 18:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 18:48 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 19:05 ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 22:08 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-28 22:50 ` Alan Cox
2007-11-26 20:42 ` serge
2007-10-28 23:55 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-29 5:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25 9:19 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 16:04 ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 17:10 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30 9:41 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 1:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-27 18:22 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-30 3:23 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-30 8:40 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 8:50 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30 9:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 9:21 ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 11:44 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-25 23:09 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 2:56 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 7:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 15:54 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 9:46 ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 15:58 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 16:32 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-26 23:26 ` Adrian Bunk
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