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From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, acme@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, namhyung@kernel.org, irogers@google.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, eranian@google.com,
	alexey.v.bayduraev@linux.intel.com, tinghao.zhang@intel.com,
	Sandipan Das <sandipan.das@amd.com>,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>,
	Athira Rajeev <atrajeev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2023 11:58:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94a2011f-38a6-a883-99c5-5693128f803e@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZRwuE8LPkwtkjX5C@tassilo>



On 2023-10-03 11:06 a.m., Andi Kleen wrote:
>> I'm thinking we should do something like expose branch_counter_nr and
>> branch_counter_width in the sysfs node, and then rename this extra field
>> to counters.
>>
>> Then userspace can do something like:
>>
>> 	for (i = 0; i < branch_counter_nr; i++) {
>> 		counter[i] = counters & ((1 << branch_counter_width) - 1);
>> 		counters >>= branch_counter_width;
>> 	}
>>
>> to extract the actual counter values.
> 
> perf script/report won't necessarily have access to the sysfs
> values if they run on a different system
> 
> It would need extra PT style metadata written by perf record to
> perf.data and read by the user tools.
> 
> Seems complicated. It would be better if it just parsed on its own.
> 

If so, perf probably have to save the information in the
perf_branch_entry. At least, perf has to be able to support 64 counters
and 64 width. That will use at least 12 bits of the info field of the
perf_branch_entry. (We only have 31 spare bits now. Almost half.) That
seems a waste.

Perf tool already supports "branches" in the caps folder. It has been
saved in the header. We can use a similar way to support
"branch_counter_nr" and "branch_counter_width". It doesn't seem very
complex. I think I will try the sysfs method first.

Thanks,
Kan

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-03 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 15:48 [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 2/6] perf/x86: Add PERF_X86_EVENT_NEEDS_BRANCH_STACK flag kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 3/6] perf: Add branch_sample_call_stack kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 4/6] perf/x86/intel: Support LBR event logging kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 5/6] tools headers UAPI: Sync include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h header with the kernel kan.liang
2023-09-11 15:48 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 6/6] perf tools: Add branch event knob kan.liang
2023-10-02 13:49 ` [RESEND PATCH V3 1/6] perf: Add branch stack extra Liang, Kan
2023-10-02 15:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-02 19:19   ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-02 21:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-03  0:57       ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-03 10:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-03 12:57           ` Liang, Kan
2023-10-03 15:06           ` Andi Kleen
2023-10-03 15:58             ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2023-10-03 16:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-10-03 16:55               ` Andi Kleen

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