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From: torvalds@transmeta.com (Linus Torvalds)
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Is sendfile all that sexy?
Date: 19 Jan 2001 13:45:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94ach5$mcs$1@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10101190951390.23899-100000@zeus.fh-brandenburg.de> <200101192018.XAA25263@ms2.inr.ac.ru>

In article <200101192018.XAA25263@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
 <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>> It's about direct i/o from/to pages,
>
>Yes. Formally, there are no problems to send to tcp directly from io space.

Actually, as long as there is no "struct page" there _are_ problems.
This is why the NUMA stuff was brought up - it would require that there
be a mem_map for the PCI pages.. (to do ref-counting etc).

>But could someone explain me one thing. Does bus-mastering
>from io really work? And if it does, is it enough fast?
>At least, looking at my book on pci, I do not understand
>how such transfers are able to use bursts. MRM is banned for them...

It does work at least on some hardware.  But no, I don't think you can
depend on bursting (but I don't see why it couldn't work in theory). 

		Linus
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  reply	other threads:[~2001-01-19 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-17 15:02 Is sendfile all that sexy? Ben Mansell
2000-01-01  2:10 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-17 19:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18  2:34   ` Olivier Galibert
2001-01-21 21:22     ` LA Walsh
2001-01-18  8:23   ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-18 10:01     ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 11:04       ` Russell Leighton
2001-01-18 16:36         ` Larry McVoy
2001-01-19  1:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 16:24       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-18 18:46         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-18 18:58         ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-18 19:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-19  0:18             ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-19  1:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-19  6:57                 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-19 10:13                 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-19 10:55                   ` Andre Hedrick
2001-01-19 20:18                   ` kuznet
2001-01-19 21:45                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-01-20 18:53                       ` kuznet
2001-01-20 19:26                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 21:20                           ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-21  0:25                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-21  2:03                               ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-21 18:00                               ` kuznet
2001-01-21 23:21                           ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-20 15:36             ` Kai Henningsen
2001-01-20 21:01               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-20 21:10                 ` Mo McKinlay
2001-01-20 22:24                 ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-21  0:33                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-21  1:29                     ` David Schwartz
2001-01-21  2:42                     ` Roman Zippel
2001-01-21  9:52                     ` James Sutherland
2001-01-21 10:02                       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-22  9:52                       ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-22 13:00                         ` James Sutherland
2001-01-23  9:01                           ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-23  9:37                             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-18 19:51           ` Rick Jones
2001-01-18 12:17     ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-22 18:13   ` Val Henson
2001-01-22 18:27     ` David Lang
2001-01-22 19:37       ` Val Henson
2001-01-22 20:01         ` David Lang
2001-01-22 22:04           ` Ion Badulescu
2001-01-22 18:54     ` Linus Torvalds
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-24 15:12 Sasi Peter
2001-01-24 15:29 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25  1:11 ` Alan Cox
2001-01-25  9:06   ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25 10:42     ` bert hubert
2001-01-25 12:14       ` James Sutherland
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10101190911130.10218-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-01-19 17:23 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-16 13:50 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-17  6:56 ` Ton Hospel
2001-01-17  7:31   ` Steve VanDevender
2001-01-17  8:09     ` Ton Hospel
2001-01-14 18:29 jamal
2001-01-14 18:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:02   ` jamal
2001-01-14 19:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 19:18       ` jamal
2001-01-14 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 20:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 21:49       ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-14 21:54     ` Gerhard Mack
2001-01-14 22:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-14 22:45         ` J Sloan
2001-01-15 20:15           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15  3:43         ` Michael Peddemors
2001-01-15 13:02       ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-15 13:45         ` Tristan Greaves
2001-01-15  1:14   ` Dan Hollis
2001-01-15 15:24   ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 15:36     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-15 20:17       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-15 16:05     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 18:34       ` Jonathan Thackray
2001-01-15 18:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-15 18:58         ` dean gaudet
2001-01-15 19:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-15 20:33       ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-01-15 21:00         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-01-16 10:40         ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 11:56           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 12:37           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:42           ` Ingo Molnar
2001-01-16 12:47             ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 13:48               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-16 14:20                 ` Felix von Leitner
2001-01-16 15:05                   ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-16 15:05                     ` Jakub Jelinek
2001-01-16 15:46                       ` David L. Parsley
2001-01-18 14:00                         ` Laramie Leavitt
2001-01-17 19:27                     ` dean gaudet
2001-01-24  0:58   ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-24  8:44     ` James Sutherland
2001-01-25 10:20     ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-25 10:58       ` Sasi Peter
2001-01-26  6:10         ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-26 11:46           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12             ` Anton Blanchard
2001-01-15 23:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-01-16 13:47   ` jamal
2001-01-16 14:41     ` Pavel Machek

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