From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: "Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Luo Gengkun <luogengkun2@huawei.com>
Cc: dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, peterz@infradead.org,
vschneid@redhat.com, kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
mingo@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
"chen.yu@linux.dev" <chen.yu@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 15:40:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <95dc124ed604ff568dc01ba502adf8d4e35c255b.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2a0a72f-65d1-40c2-ac84-f296094d2e9f@intel.com>
On Thu, 2026-07-09 at 23:01 +0800, Chen, Yu C wrote:
> Hi Gengkun,
>
> thanks for the update,
>
> On 7/9/2026 9:00 PM, Luo Gengkun wrote:
>
> > +static unsigned long fraction_mm_sched(int cpu,
> > + struct mm_struct *mm)
> > {
> > + struct sched_cache_time *pcpu_sched =
> > + per_cpu_ptr(mm->sc_stat.pcpu_sched, cpu);
> > + struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
> > +
> > guard(raw_spinlock_irqsave)(&rq->cpu_epoch_lock);
> >
> > + /* Skip the rq that has not been hit for a long time */
> > + if ((rq->cpu_epoch - pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout) > llc_epoch_affinity_timeout) {
> > + cpumask_clear_cpu(cpu, &mm->sc_stat.visited_cpus);
> > + return 0;
> > + }
> > +
>
> I was wondering if there is a race condition in the scenario
> above: If the rq has just updated its cpu_epoch field, and the
> CPU subsequently remains idle, then rq->cpu_epoch stays unchanged.
> That is to say, a race could occur as follows: if CPU1 becomes idle,
> CPU2's task_cache_work() might compute
> rq->cpu_epoch - pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout == 0 and consequently fail
> to clear CPU1 from visit_cpus.
>
> CPU_1 CPU_2
> ------------------------------------ ---------------------------------
> account_mm_sched(rq_X)
> set CPU1 in visited_cpus
>
>
> (idle: fair task runs here,
> CPU1.cpu_epoch frozen afterwards,
> pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout = CPU1.epoch)
> fraction_mm_sched()
> CPU1->cpu_epoch -
> pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout = 0
> -> bit CPU1 not cleared
> __update_mm_sched()
> ->update cpu_epoch, too late
> I wonder if we should let __update_mm_sched() be invoked before
> if ((rq->cpu_epoch - pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout) >
> llc_epoch_affinity_timeout)?
Also, I am not sure why we need to create this new field pcpu_sched->epoch_timeout?
Wouldn't rq->cpu_epoch - pcpu_sched->epoch give the elapsed
epochs since the last time that cpu was visited for this mm
(as in __update_mm_sched())?
There are some races possible
when cpu_epoch changes before the whole accounting got done.
A CPU could get visited after you think that it hasn't got visited.
But you will also have race if you use epoch_timeout.
Tim
>
> BTW, in your test data:
> sched_cache_scan: comm=redis-server pid=24660 scan=384
> Is it because NUMA balancing is disabled on your platform that it has
> to scan all the CPUs? It would be helpful to know what the result would
> be with NUMA balancing enabled.
> I found some reports from sashiko here that are worth taking a look at:
> https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260709130053.2749834-1-luogengkun2%40huawei.com
>
> thanks,
> Chenyu
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-07-14 22:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-09 13:00 [PATCH v5 linux 0/2] Cache aware scheduling: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work Luo Gengkun
2026-07-09 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] sched/cache: Reduce the overhead of task_cache_work by only scan the visisted cpus Luo Gengkun
2026-07-09 15:01 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-07-14 2:22 ` Luo Gengkun
2026-07-14 22:40 ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-07-15 6:41 ` Luo Gengkun
2026-07-09 13:00 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add trace event and sched feature to track scan cost Luo Gengkun
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