From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
bristot <bristot@redhat.com>, paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: x86/kprobes bug? (was: [PATCH 1/3] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 10:26:35 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <968659278.8871.1570631195078.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191009130754.GL2311@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
+ hpa, paulmck
----- On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@infradead.org wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 10:45:40PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
>
>> > > > > text_poke_bp(op->kp.addr, insn_buff, RELATIVEJUMP_SIZE,
>> > > > > - op->optinsn.insn);
>> > > > > + emulate_buff);
>> > > > > }
>> > >
>> > > As argued in a previous thread, text_poke_bp() is broken when it changes
>> > > more than a single instruction at a time.
>> > >
>> > > Now, ISTR optimized kprobes does something like:
>> > >
>> > > poke INT3
>> >
>> > Hmm, it does this using text_poke(), but lacks a
>> > on_each_cpu(do_sync_core, NULL, 1), which I suppose is OK-ish IFF you do
>> > that synchronize_rcu_tasks() after it, but less so if you don't.
>> >
>> > That is, without either, you can't really tell if the kprobe is in
>> > effect or not.
>>
>> Yes, it doesn't wait the change by design at this moment.
>
> Right, this might surprise some, I suppose, and I might've found a small
> issue with it, see below.
>
>> > > synchronize_rcu_tasks() /* waits for all tasks to schedule
>> > > guarantees instructions after INT3
>> > > are unused */
>> > > install optimized probe /* overwrites multiple instrctions with
>> > > JMP.d32 */
>> > >
>> > > And the above then undoes that by:
>> > >
>> > > poke INT3 on top of the optimzed probe
>> > >
>> > > poke tail instructions back /* guaranteed safe because the
>> > > above INT3 poke ensures the
>> > > JMP.d32 instruction is unused */
>> > >
>> > > poke head byte back
>>
>> Yes, anyway, the last poke should recover another INT3... (for kprobe)
>
> It does indeed.
>
>> > > Is this correct? If so, we should probably put a comment in there
>> > > explaining how all this is unusual but safe.
>
> So from what I can tell of kernel/kprobes.c, what it does is something like:
>
> ARM: (__arm_kprobe)
> text_poke(INT3)
> /* guarantees nothing, INT3 will become visible at some point, maybe */
>
> (kprobe_optimizer)
> if (opt) {
> /* guarantees the bytes after INT3 are unused */
> syncrhonize_rcu_tasks();
> text_poke_bp(JMP32);
> /* implies IPI-sync, kprobe really is enabled */
> }
>
>
> DISARM: (__unregister_kprobe_top)
> if (opt) {
> text_poke_bp(INT3 + tail);
> /* implies IPI-sync, so tail is guaranteed visible */
> }
> text_poke(old);
>
>
> FREE: (__unregister_kprobe_bottom)
> /* guarantees 'old' is visible and the kprobe really is unused, maybe */
> synchronize_rcu();
> free();
>
>
> Now the problem is that I don't think the synchronize_rcu() at free
> implies enough to guarantee 'old' really is visible on all CPUs.
> Similarly, I don't think synchronize_rcu_tasks() is sufficient on the
> ARM side either. It only provides the guarantee -provided- the INT3 is
> actually visible. If it is not, all bets are off.
>
> I'd feel much better if we switch arch_arm_kprobe() over to using
> text_poke_bp(). Or at the very least add the on_each_cpu(do_sync_core)
> to it.
>
> Hmm?
Yes, I think you are right on both counts. synchronize_rcu() is not enough
to guarantee that other cores have observed the required core serializing
instructions.
I would also be more comfortable if we ensure core serialization for all
cores after arming the kprobe with text_poke() (before doing the text_poke_bp
to JMP32), and after the text_poke(old) in DISARM (before freeing, and possibly
re-using, the memory).
I think originally it might have been OK to text_poke the INT3 without core serialization
before introducing optimized kprobes, since it would only switch back and forth between
the original instruction { 0xAA, 0xBB, 0xCC, ... } and the breakpoint
{ INT3, 0xBB, 0xCC, ... }. But now that the optimized kprobes are adding
additional states, we end up requiring core serialization in case a core
observes the original instruction and the optimized kprobes jump without
observing the INT3.
The follow up patch you propose at https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191009132844.GG2359@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/
makes sense.
Now depending on whether we care mostly about speed or robustness in this
code, there is a small tweak we could do. The approach you propose aims for
robustness by issuing a text_poke_sync() after each ARM/DISARM, which
effectively adds IPIs to all cores even in !opt cases. If we aim for speed
in the !opt case, we might want to move the text_poke_sync() within the
if (opt) branches so it only IPIs if the probe happens to be optimized.
In my personal opinion, I would prefer simple and robust over clever and fast
for inserting kprobes, but you guys know more about the performance trade-offs
than I do.
hpa provided very insightful feedback in the original text_poke_bp implementation
thread with respect to those corner-cases, so having his feedback here would
be great.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-09 14:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-27 18:06 [PATCH 0/3] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-27 18:06 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-03 5:00 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-03 8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-03 11:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-03 12:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-04 13:45 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-07 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 13:07 ` x86/kprobes bug? (was: [PATCH 1/3] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions) Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 13:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 14:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2019-10-17 19:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-03 13:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-08-27 18:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-02 16:34 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-03 5:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-08-27 18:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-02 16:35 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-02 18:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-03 22:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-04 8:10 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-04 13:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-04 14:44 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-04 15:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 7:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 7:37 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-11 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 13:11 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-04 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-04 13:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 0:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 0:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 3:10 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 3:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 3:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 4:05 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 11:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 13:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 17:50 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 18:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 20:46 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 21:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 21:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 22:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-23 2:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 22:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-22 23:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-22 23:49 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-23 4:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-10-23 9:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-23 17:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-23 19:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-23 20:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-23 22:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-22 3:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-10-03 5:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-08-28 7:22 ` [PATCH 0/3] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Song Liu
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