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From: Keith Owens <kaos@sgi.com>
To: Robin Holt <holt@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	Dean Nelson <dcn@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: Is notify_die being overloaded?
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:23:52 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9758.1145319832@ocs3.ocs.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:25:52 EST." <20060417112552.GB4929@lnx-holt.americas.sgi.com>

Robin Holt (on Mon, 17 Apr 2006 06:25:52 -0500) wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 05:51:44AM -0500, Robin Holt wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 05:52:10PM +1000, Keith Owens wrote:
>> > Robin Holt (on Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:43:56 -0500) wrote:
>...
>> > Unfortunately the ebents are ambiguous.  On IA64 BUG() maps to break 0,
>> > but break 0 is also used for debugging[*].  Which makes it awkward to
>> > differentiate between a kernel error and a debug event, we have to
>> > first ask the debuggers if the event if for them then, if the debuggers
>> > do not want the event, drop into the die_if_kernel event.
>> 
>> I think this still would argue for a notify_debugger() sort of callout
>> which would read something like:
>
>I finally think I understand your point.  You are saying that kdb would
>have to register for the notify_debugger() chain and would therefore
>get in the way of handle_page_fault().  What about changing notify_die()
>callout in handle_page_fault() into a notify_page_fault().  That actually
>feels a lot better now that you got me to think about it.

I thought that is what I said in my original response, "kprobes should
be using its own notify chain to trap page faults, and the handler for
that chain should be optimized away when CONFIG_KPROBES=n or there are
no active probes".

Even the overhead of calling into a notify_page_fault() routine just to
do nothing adds a measurable overhead to the page fault handler
(according to Jack Steiner).  Since kprobes is the only code that needs
a callback on a page fault, it is up to kprobes to minimize the impact
of that callback on the normal processing.


  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-18  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-13 19:46 Is notify_die being overloaded? Robin Holt
2006-04-15  6:19 ` Keith Owens
2006-04-15 10:43   ` Robin Holt
2006-04-17  7:52     ` Keith Owens
2006-04-17 10:51       ` Robin Holt
2006-04-17 11:25         ` Robin Holt
2006-04-18  0:23           ` Keith Owens [this message]
2006-04-18 22:16             ` ia64_do_page_fault shows 19.4% slowdown from notify_die Robin Holt
2006-04-18 23:03               ` Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-04-19  0:30               ` Andi Kleen
2006-04-19 11:11                 ` Robin Holt
2006-04-17 16:50       ` Is notify_die being overloaded? Keshavamurthy Anil S
2006-04-17 16:45 ` Keshavamurthy Anil S

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