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From: Sui Jingfeng <sui.jingfeng@linux.dev>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com
Cc: "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Jiri Slaby" <jirislaby@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas.schier@linux.dev>,
	"Hans de Goede" <hansg@kernel.org>,
	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Mark Pearson" <mpearson-lenovo@squebb.ca>,
	"Derek J. Clark" <derekjohn.clark@gmail.com>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
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	"Stephan Gerhold" <stephan.gerhold@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/14] software node: Implement device_get_match_data fwnode callback
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2026 11:40:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <977d29f6-4157-4fdb-b0d6-c24def482c06@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aWSpFk9z0zpyKjr6@smile.fi.intel.com>



On 2026/1/12 15:56, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 12:26:21PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay wrote:
> 
>> Because the software node backend of the fwnode API framework lacks an
>> implementation for the .device_get_match_data function callback.
> 
> Maybe this is done on purpose. 


It is a *fact* that the broken swnode lacks an implementation for the 
.device_get_match_data stub.


Otherwise, If it is really done *on purpose*, the maintainers of swnode
backend probably shall document it in the source file *explicitly*.

Have you thought about this aspect?
> 

If it is sure thing, then it shouldn't start with "Maybe ..."


>> This makes it difficult to use(and/or test) a few drivers that originates
>> from DT world on the non-DT platform.
> 
> How difficult? 

The emphasis isn't on the 'difficult' word, it means 'inconvenience'

> DSA implementation went to the way of taking DT overlay
> approach. Why that one can't be applied here?


Software node as an complement of ACPI, Therefore should do the same.



DT overlay introduce extra overhead/side effects on the non-DT systems.

Besides, DT overlay requires the OS distribution(such as ubuntu) has the 
DT overlay config option selected.



> 
>> Implement the .device_get_match_data fwnode callback, which helps to keep
>> the three backends of the fwnode API aligned as much as possible. This is
>> also a fundamental step to make a few drivers OF-independent truely
>> possible.
>>
>> Device drivers or platform setup codes are expected to provide a software
>> node string property, named as "compatible". At this moment, the value of
>> this string property is being used to match against the compatible entries
>> in the of_device_id table. It can be extended in the future though.
> 
> I really do not want to see this patch

You can do that by dropping the maintainer-ship.

Your endless, bruth-force ranting on such a straight-forward thing 
doesn't make much sense, because that waste everybody's time.

> without very good justification


Justifications has been provided over and over again.

> (note, there were at least two attempts in the past to add this stuff

This exactly saying that the implementation is missing.

>   and no-one was merged, 

That's the reason why you see it at least the second time.

have you studied those cases?).
> 

The first one is not 100% correct.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-14  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-10  6:56 [PATCH v3 00/14] Add support for handling PCIe M.2 Key E connectors in devicetree Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] serdev: Convert to_serdev_*() helpers to macros and use container_of_const() Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] serdev: Add an API to find the serdev controller associated with the devicetree node Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  7:50   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12  7:55     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-12  8:06       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12 10:59       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] software node: Implement device_get_match_data fwnode callback Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  7:56   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12  8:19     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-12  8:27       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12  9:02         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-12 16:31           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-12 13:37       ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2026-01-12 16:41         ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2026-01-14  3:40     ` Sui Jingfeng [this message]
     [not found]     ` <26a001c3-2140-4241-87dd-604eab3f827b@linux.dev>
2026-01-22  8:51       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] software node: Add software_node_match_device() API Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  8:31   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12 11:03     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-01-12 11:15       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] software node: Add software_node_device_uevent() API Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  8:09   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] software node: Add software_node_device_modalias() API Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  8:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] serdev: Do not return -ENODEV from of_serdev_register_devices() if external connector is used Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] serdev: Add support for swnode based driver matching and uevent/modalias Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] dt-bindings: serial: Document the graph port Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] dt-bindings: connector: Add PCIe M.2 Mechanical Key E connector Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] dt-bindings: connector: m2: Add M.2 1620 LGA soldered down connector Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] Bluetooth: hci_qca: Add M.2 Bluetooth device support using pwrseq Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] power: sequencing: pcie-m2: Add support for PCIe M.2 Key E connectors Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-10  6:56 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] power: sequencing: pcie-m2: Create serdev device for WCN7850 bluetooth Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12  8:04 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] Add support for handling PCIe M.2 Key E connectors in devicetree Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12  8:18   ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-14 12:40     ` Herve Codina
2026-01-22  8:52       ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-01-12 10:54   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-12 16:25 [PATCH v4 0/9] " Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12 16:26 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] power: sequencing: pcie-m2: Create serdev device for WCN7850 bluetooth Manivannan Sadhasivam via B4 Relay
2026-01-12 16:43   ` [PATCH v3 03/14] software node: Implement device_get_match_data fwnode callback Manivannan Sadhasivam

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