From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>
Cc: Blair Strang <bls@asterisk.co.nz>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: In-kernel Authentication Tokens (PAGs)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 15:22:21 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9960.1087395741@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3943FF92-BEFE-11D8-95EB-000393ACC76E@mac.com>
> One thing that I would very much like to have is the ability to create a new
> shell with a new keyring, such that I can still see and use the old keyring,
> but I can create new keys without modifying the old keyring, even to the
> extent of masking out keys in the old keyring without modifying them for
> other processes. From my brief glance at your patch, that's not a feature
> you have implemented.
Hmmm... What exactly are you wanting to do? Each task theoretically subscribes
to five keyrings (the group one isn't yet there) in this model; three of which
are transferred across a fork, and four across CLONE_THREAD.
The five keyrings are:
- Group (associated with primary GID)
- User (associated with UID)
- Session (voluntarily discarded)
- Process (shared between threads in a process)
- Thread (one per thread)
> I would also like the ability to mark a key as unreadable except by kernel
> threads or processes with CAP_KEYRING.
What do you mean by "unreadable"?
Currently, userspace can't see the data attached to a key. It can only see the
description, and only then through /proc/keys.
> If I can pass key "handles" of some sort over UNIX sockets, then I can also
> pass an unreadable key to a daemon process which uses it to access my files
> until I revoke the key.
I can see what you're getting at.
I think I need to create some more operations:
(*) Retire/Revoke key
(*) Add key to another keyring
(*) Remove key from keyring
(*) List keyring
(*) Describe key
(*) Read key (if not protected)
(*) Create keyring
I have pondered representing keyspace with some sort of filesystem interface
(using vfs ops to represent the operations), but that could require hardlinked
directories (keyrings) to pull off - either that or symlinks.
Also, there's the problem of security on the operations themselves. How do you
determine what a process is allowed to do?
Either I should only allow access to keys and keyrings to which a process is
subscribed, or I should attach UID/GID/MASK values to every key and keyring.
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-06-16 14:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-06-12 2:37 In-kernel Authentication Tokens (PAGs) Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 3:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12 4:57 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 5:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12 12:51 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 15:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2004-06-12 17:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 3:15 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 4:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 20:53 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 21:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 21:44 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 21:58 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 22:51 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-12 23:40 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 22:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-12 23:33 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-12 23:58 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-13 0:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-15 6:38 ` Blair Strang
2004-06-15 7:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-06-15 9:36 ` David Howells
2004-06-15 19:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-15 22:07 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-15 23:48 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-16 0:01 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-16 0:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-16 14:22 ` David Howells [this message]
2004-06-15 22:29 ` Chris Wright
2004-06-16 14:37 ` David Howells
2004-06-15 23:59 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-16 14:49 ` David Howells
2004-06-17 1:13 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-17 11:48 ` David Howells
2004-06-17 19:06 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-23 12:29 ` David Howells
2004-06-23 21:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-06-29 17:07 ` Kyle Moffett
2004-07-07 18:54 ` John Bucy
2004-07-08 1:29 ` Kyle Moffett
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