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From: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
To: danial_thom@yahoo.com
Cc: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
	Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.12 Performance problems
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:35:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a87484905082409356c549512@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050824162425.62228.qmail@web33304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On 8/24/05, Danial Thom <danial_thom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net> wrote:
> 
> > Danial Thom wrote:
> > > I think part of the problem is the continued
> > > misuse of the word "latency". Latency, in
> > > language terms, means "unexplained delay".
> > Its
> > > wrong here because for one, its explainable.
> > But
> > > it also depends on your perspective. The
> > > "latency" is increased for kernel tasks,
> > while it
> > > may be reduced for something that is getting
> > the
> > > benefit of preempting the kernel. So you
> > really
> > > can't say "the price of reduced latency is
> > lower
> > > throughput", because thats simply backwards.
> > > You've increased the kernel tasks latency by
> > > allowing it to be pre-empted. Reduced latency
> > > implies higher efficiency. All you've done
> > here
> > > is shift the latency from one task to
> > another, so
> > > there is no reduction overall, in fact there
> > is
> > > probably a marginal increase due to the
> > overhead
> > > of pre-emption vs doing nothing.
> >
> > If instead of complaining you would provide the
> > information
> > I've asked for two days ago someone might
> > actually be able
> > to help you.
> 
> Because gaining an understanding of how the
> settings work is better than having 30 guys
> telling me to tune something that is only going
> to make a marginal difference. I didn't ask you
> to tell me what was wrong with my setup, only
> whether its expected that 2.6 would be less
> useful in a UP setup than 2.4, which I think
> you've answered.
> 

I hope you're implying that the answer is; no, it's not expected that
2.6 is less useful in a UP setup than 2.4  :-)

-- 
Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-24 16:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-08-21 16:57 2.6.12 Performance problems Danial Thom
2005-08-23  7:12 ` Helge Hafting
2005-08-23 17:10   ` Danial Thom
2005-08-23 17:21     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-08-24 16:24       ` Danial Thom
2005-08-24 16:35         ` Jesper Juhl [this message]
2005-08-24 17:26           ` Danial Thom
2005-08-25  4:51             ` Ben Greear
2005-08-25  6:08               ` Danial Thom
2005-08-25  6:15                 ` Ben Greear
2005-08-26  3:29                   ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 22:18                     ` Danial Thom
2005-08-25  6:34                 ` Ben Greear
2005-08-25 14:26                   ` Danial Thom
2005-08-25 16:55                     ` Ben Greear
2005-08-25 20:45                       ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 19:10                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2005-08-27 11:19                 ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2005-08-27 14:35                   ` Danial Thom
2005-08-23 18:02     ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-08-23 20:10       ` Danial Thom
2005-08-23 20:22         ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2005-08-24 16:33           ` Danial Thom
2005-08-23 20:40         ` Patrick McHardy
2005-08-23 23:29           ` Ben Greear
2005-08-24 16:39           ` Danial Thom
2005-08-23 21:32     ` Jesper Juhl
2005-08-24 17:03       ` Danial Thom
     [not found] <2230.192.167.206.189.1124721719.squirrel@new.host.name>
2005-08-22 15:41 ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 13:17   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-26 15:34     ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 16:21       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-26 17:06         ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 18:30           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-08-26 21:09             ` Danial Thom
2005-08-26 23:27               ` Ben Greear
2005-08-27 14:44                 ` Danial Thom
     [not found] <9a87484905082111205d27c1aa@mail.gmail.com>
2005-08-21 20:21 ` Danial Thom
2005-08-21 21:21   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-08-22 11:46   ` Denis Vlasenko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-08-21 17:07 Danial Thom
2005-08-21 15:46 Danial Thom
2005-08-21 16:15 ` Patrick McHardy
2005-08-21 16:18   ` Danial Thom
2005-08-21 16:36     ` Patrick McHardy
2005-08-21 19:47 ` Andrew Morton

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