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From: Alexey Budankov <alexey.budankov@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>,
	Dmitri Prokhorov <Dmitry.Prohorov@intel.com>,
	Valery Cherepennikov <valery.cherepennikov@intel.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	David Carrillo-Cisneros <davidcc@google.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] perf/core: use rb trees for pinned/flexible groups
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 18:32:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ce8c683-791b-add1-33c4-e65233e2398c@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170807091326.5e3iec54ninmeyex@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 07.08.2017 12:13, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 10:39:13AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 10:17:46AM +0300, Alexey Budankov wrote:
>>> Makes sense. The implementation becomes a bit simpler. The drawbacks 
>>> may be several rotations of potentially big tree on the critical path, 
>>> instead of updating four pointers in case of the tree of lists.
>>
>> Yes, but like said, it allows implementing a better scheduler than RR,
>> allowing us to fix rotation artifacts where task runtimes are near the
>> rotation window.

Could you elaborate more on the artifacts or my be share some link to the theory?

>>
>> A slightly more complicated, but also interested scheduling problem is
>> the per-cpu flexible vs the per-task flexible. Ideally we'd rotate them
>> at the same priority based on service, without strictly prioritizing the
>> per-cpu events.
>>
>> Again, that is something that should be possible once we have a more
>> capable event scheduler.
>>
>>
>> So yes, cons and pros.. :-)
> 
> Also, I think for AVL tree you could do the erase and (re)insert
> combined and then rebalance in one go, not sure RB allows the same
> thing, but it might be fun looking into.

Not sure if AVL is more practical here. You get better balancing what gives 
you faster average search for the price of longer modifications 
so yes, need to measure and compare ... :-)

> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-07 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02  8:11 [PATCH v6 0/3] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:13 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] perf/core: use rb trees for pinned/flexible groups Alexey Budankov
2017-08-03 13:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 20:30     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07  7:17         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-07  8:39           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07  9:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 15:32               ` Alexey Budankov [this message]
2017-08-07 15:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 16:27                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-07 16:57                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 17:39                       ` Andi Kleen
2017-08-07 18:12                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 18:13                       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-15 17:28           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 13:39             ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 14:18               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-29 13:51             ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30  8:30               ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-30 10:18                 ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30 10:30                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-30 11:13                     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-30 11:16                 ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12                   ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-07 15:22         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:15 ` [PATCH v6 2/3]: perf/core: use context tstamp_data for skipped events on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-03 13:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 14:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 15:58     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 12:36       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 15:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-03 18:47     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 12:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-04 12:51         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-04 14:25           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-04 14:23         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-10 15:57     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-22 20:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-23  8:54         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 17:18           ` [RFC][PATCH] perf: Rewrite enabled/running timekeeping Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-31 19:51             ` Stephane Eranian
2017-09-05  7:51               ` Stephane Eranian
2017-09-05  9:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 10:45             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-01 12:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 11:17             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-01 12:42               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-01 21:03             ` Vince Weaver
2017-09-04 10:46             ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-04 12:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-04 14:56                 ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-04 15:41                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-04 15:58                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 10:17                     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 11:19                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-11  6:55                         ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 12:06                       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-05 12:59                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-05 16:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-09-06 13:48                           ` Alexey Budankov
2017-09-08  8:47                           ` Alexey Budankov
2018-03-12 17:43                             ` [tip:perf/core] perf/cor: Use RB trees for pinned/flexible groups tip-bot for Alexey Budankov
2017-08-02  8:16 ` [PATCH v6 3/3]: perf/core: add mux switch to skip to the current CPU's events list on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:17 ` [PATCH v7 0/2] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:21   ` [PATCH v7 1/2] perf/core: use rb trees for pinned/flexible groups Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 11:17     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 17:23       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-18  5:22   ` [PATCH v7 2/2] perf/core: add mux switch to skip to the current CPU's events list on mux interrupt Alexey Budankov
2017-08-23 11:54     ` Alexander Shishkin
2017-08-23 18:12       ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-22 20:21   ` [PATCH v7 0/2] perf/core: addressing 4x slowdown during per-process profiling of STREAM benchmark on Intel Xeon Phi Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-23  8:54     ` Alexey Budankov
2017-08-31 10:12     ` Alexey Budankov

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