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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Getting FS access events
Date: 15 May 2001 12:28:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9ds01m$7q9$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200105150649.f4F6nwD22946@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca> <5.1.0.14.2.20010515105633.00a22c10@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>

Followup to:  <5.1.0.14.2.20010515105633.00a22c10@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk>
By author:    Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
> 
> They shouldn't, but maybe some stupid utility or a typo will do it creating 
> two incoherent copies of the same block on the device. -> Bad Things can 
> happen.
> 
> Can't we simply stop people from doing it by say having mount lock the 
> device from further opens (and vice versa of course, doing a "dd" should 
> result in lock of device preventing a mount during the duration of "dd"). - 
> Wouldn't this be a good thing, guaranteeing that problems cannot happen 
> while not incurring any overhead except on device open/close? Or is this a 
> matter of "give the user enough rope"? - If proper rw locking is 
> implemented it could allow simultaneous -o ro mount with a dd from the 
> device but do exclusive write locking, for example, for maximum flexibility.
> 

This would leave no way (without introducing new interfaces) to write,
for example, the boot block on an ext2 filesystem.  Note that the
bootblock (defined as the first 1024 bytes) is not actually used by
the filesystem, although depending on the block size it may share a
block with the superblock (if blocksize > 1024).

	-hpa

-- 
<hpa@transmeta.com> at work, <hpa@zytor.com> in private!
"Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot."
http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt

  reply	other threads:[~2001-05-15 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200105140117.f4E1HqN07362@vindaloo.ras.ucalgary.ca>
2001-05-14  1:32 ` Getting FS access events Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  1:45   ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-14  2:39     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  3:09       ` Rik van Riel
2001-05-14  4:27         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  4:37       ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-23 11:37         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-14  2:24   ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14  4:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14  5:15       ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-14 13:04         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-14 18:00           ` Andreas Dilger
2001-05-14 20:16         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-14 23:19           ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  0:42             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  4:00             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  4:35               ` Larry McVoy
2001-05-15  4:57                 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-15  5:12                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  9:10                   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-15  9:48                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2001-05-15  9:54                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17                         ` Kai Henningsen
2001-05-15 20:58                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:08                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  4:59                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 17:01                   ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15  4:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  5:04                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15  6:20                 ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:28                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  6:49                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-15  6:57                       ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:33                         ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15 10:44                           ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 14:42                             ` Daniel Phillips
2001-05-15  7:13                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  7:56                         ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15  8:06                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15  8:33                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 10:27                               ` David Woodhouse
2001-05-15 16:00                               ` Chris Mason
2001-05-15 19:26                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:03                                 ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:07                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:15                                     ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:17                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:22                                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 20:26                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 20:31                                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-05-15 21:12                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:22                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 21:02                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-15 21:53                                             ` Jan Harkes
2001-05-19  5:26                             ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-15 10:04                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-15 19:28                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-05-15 22:31                           ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-05-15 22:35                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  1:17                             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16  1:30                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-16  8:34                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-05-16 16:27                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-05-15 16:26                       ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-15 18:02                       ` Craig Milo Rogers
2001-05-15 16:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:39                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-19 19:44                     ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-19 19:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-05-23 11:29                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-20  4:30                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-05-20 19:47                       ` Alan Cox
2001-05-18  7:55                 ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-23 11:36                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-05-15  6:13               ` Richard Gooch

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