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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: "Antonino A. Daplas" <adaplas@hotpop.com>
Cc: Kendall Bennett <kendallb@scitechsoft.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	penguinppc-team@lists.penguinppc.org,
	linux-fbdev-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT?
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e47339104101516206c8597d3@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200410160551.40635.adaplas@hotpop.com>

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 05:51:38 +0800, Antonino A. Daplas
<adaplas@hotpop.com> wrote:
> Yes, that is the downside to a userspace solution. How bad will that be?
> Note that Jon Smirl is proposing a temporary console driver for early
> boot messages until the primary console driver activates.

Does anyone know exactly how big the window is from when a compiled in
console activates until one that relies on initramfs loads? I don't
think it is very big given that a lot of the early printk's are queued
before they are displayed.

Other than embedded systems, are there machines that have no BIOS/PROM
display at all and rely entirely on a bootable kernel for display? If
so, how do machines like this put up a message that they can't find
the kernel? How do you get hardware diagnostic messages from them?

In the case of something like a Mac you would want to keep the display
blank until the early user space code initializes the display in
graphics mode. Only if you get a fatal error before this would you
dump the info using the Open Firmware display. Same strategy would
apply to x86.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-15 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-10-14 19:02 Generic VESA framebuffer driver and Video card BOOT? Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15  0:27 ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-15 23:20       ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2004-10-15 23:51         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 23:58           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19 21:15           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-16  1:50         ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16  2:03           ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 20:34               ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 20:47                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-18 21:04                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 21:16                 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 22:34                   ` Richard Smith
2004-10-18 23:28                     ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-19  0:18                       ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19  0:55                     ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19  1:39                       ` Richard Smith
2004-10-19 17:54                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:48                       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01                         ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:08                           ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36                             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 12:05 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-15 12:38   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-10-15 12:45     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-19 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-15 13:13     ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-17 12:07       ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18  8:36         ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 11:39           ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-18 12:10             ` Gerd Knorr
2004-10-18 20:21               ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-18 20:42                 ` Oliver Neukum
2004-10-19 16:57                   ` Martin Waitz
2004-10-15 18:29     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2004-10-16  9:01       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 13:48 ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 18:36   ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-10-15 22:12       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-16  0:41         ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-26 11:14           ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27  1:58             ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-27 11:11               ` Paulo Marques
2004-10-27 19:52                 ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-15 21:51     ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-10-16 17:44 ` Jon Smirl
2004-10-18 19:34   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-19 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-19 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 17:01   ` [Linux-fbdev-devel] " Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 17:31     ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-20 18:44       ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-20 19:10         ` Pavel Machek
2004-10-21 19:36           ` Kendall Bennett
2004-10-21 20:47             ` Richard Smith

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