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From: Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com>
To: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>, Stelian Pop <stelian@popies.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:58:01 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e47339105020807585a5c4fc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502071516100.30794@scrub.home>

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:57:14 +0100 (CET), Roman Zippel
<zippel@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> 1. Is the kernel history locked into bk?

Earlier Larry said this:

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:20:49 -0800, Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com> wrote:
> > Speaking from the out-BK point of view, what would really be nice
> > is better granularity in the CVS export (a 1-1 changeset to CVS commit
> > mapping). I know this involves playing with CVS branches and could
> > be a bit tricky but should be doable.
> 
> I have two problems with this request:
> 
>     - The idea that the granularity in CVS is unreasonable is pure
>       nonesense.  Here's the data as of this email:
> 
>                 CVS             BitKeeper [*]
>         Deltas  235,956         280,212
> 
>     - It is not at all an easy thing to do in CVS, we looked at it and
>       guessed it is about 3 man months of work.
> 
> So let's see what's reasonable.  In order for you to get the last 16%
> of the granularity, which you need because you want to compete with us,
> you'd like us to do another 3 man months of work.  What would you say if
> you were me in this situation?

Roman, if you want this so bad why don't you just pay Larry for the
three month's work? It's just not reasonable to ask someone to do work
for free that the only purpose of is to help someone clone their
system. He's never said he won't make the changes, he just said he
won't do the work for free.

Don't bother with a big response about how all of the revision history
should be available for free and that you shouldn't have to pay to get
it.  For historical reasons we're in the current position and you have
a solution which is to pay to have the work done.

-- 
Jon Smirl
jonsmirl@gmail.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-02-08 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-02-02 15:54 [RFC] Linux Kernel Subversion Howto Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 16:15 ` Lethalman
2005-02-02 16:37   ` Lethalman
2005-02-03 10:34   ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-02 21:47 ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-03 10:45   ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:04     ` Daniele Venzano
2005-02-04 20:52     ` Olaf Dietsche
2005-02-09  5:19       ` Kevin Puetz
2005-02-09  8:58         ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09 13:44           ` David Roundy
2005-02-03  0:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 10:24   ` Stelian Pop
     [not found] ` <200502030028.j130SNU9004640@terminus.zytor.com>
2005-02-03  3:34   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 16:45     ` H. Peter Anvin
2005-02-03 19:32     ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 20:20       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-03 22:00         ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-03 22:28           ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 13:01             ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 16:06               ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 16:22                 ` Roland Dreier
2005-02-04 21:53                   ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 17:03                 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 18:39                   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 20:05                     ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 20:11                       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-04 21:40                         ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 23:31                           ` Francois Romieu
2005-02-05 19:38                             ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-05 23:38                               ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:43                                 ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:58                                   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 17:17                                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 18:16                                       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 18:52                                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09  0:07                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-02-09  2:05                                             ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09  2:24                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09  2:35                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09  2:39                                                   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09  2:47                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09  3:40                                                       ` Larry McVoy
     [not found]                                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.61.0502091128070.7836@localhost.localdomain>
2005-02-09 17:38                                                           ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 18:24                                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 18:48                                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:31                                                                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09 23:52                                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09 23:22                                                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10  0:13                                                           ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10 19:34                                                           ` d.c
2005-02-11  8:40                                                             ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-09  2:40                                                   ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09  2:57                                                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-09  3:03                                                       ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-09  5:48                                                       ` Gene Heskett
2005-02-09  9:05                                                         ` Miles Bader
2005-02-09  7:06                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-09 14:48                                       ` d.c
2005-02-09 15:51                                       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 17:30                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 17:44                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-10  5:44                                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-02-10  9:36                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10 21:17                                           ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11  9:02                                             ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-11 15:30                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 15:48                                               ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:18                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 16:54                                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 16:13                                               ` Jon Smirl
2005-02-11 17:22                                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-11 20:00                                                   ` Larry McVoy
     [not found]                                           ` <20050210222403.GA5920@thunk.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <or650z6syt.fsf@livre.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br>
2005-02-11 15:53                                               ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-11 17:24                                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2005-02-10  5:47                                     ` James Bruce
2005-02-06 16:40                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-06 17:39                   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07  1:45                     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-07  2:10                       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 14:57                         ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 15:19                           ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:24                           ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-08 15:47                             ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-08 15:36                           ` Catalin Marinas
2005-02-08 15:58                           ` Jon Smirl [this message]
2005-02-08 16:15                             ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:17                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-02-08 17:23                                 ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-08 17:01                             ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-07  2:16                       ` Al Viro
2005-02-04 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 10:59   ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-04 11:08     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-02-04 11:20       ` Stelian Pop
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-02-09 18:46 Larry McVoy
2005-02-09 20:13 ` Nicolas Pitre
2005-02-09 23:53   ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10  0:14     ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10  0:50       ` Larry McVoy
2005-02-10  9:52         ` Roman Zippel
2005-02-10 10:11           ` linux
2005-02-10  6:08       ` James Bruce
2005-02-10 15:14         ` Stelian Pop
2005-02-10 16:42 Steve Lee
2005-02-10 19:23 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-02-10 19:50   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-02-11 18:56 none given
2005-02-11 19:50 ` Larry McVoy
     [not found] <fa.hd724f5.h36q2j@ifi.uio.no>
2011-08-18 19:08 ` lucasrangit
2011-08-18 19:22   ` Randy Dunlap

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