From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932371AbVHaFXg (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:23:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932372AbVHaFXg (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:23:36 -0400 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.194]:11996 "EHLO wproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932371AbVHaFXg convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:23:36 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VW5PTELVuA1mHj5IPl5YHCRjsa33FS4IBDsfBZbMPd11OK9SxJeZ6G3p/8hQrdOTr+iW+gw5u7Gyp6Qsdno4Nm01RzmdSL2PY3CipT8o1GtLi0PT7sHeHiXVj/Tenaky9aC4wbYw3bqwR995nPm/zs6M1ZY8IjpsOo1ck/5XpQ8= Message-ID: <9e473391050830222371dd4f10@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:23:35 -0400 From: Jon Smirl To: Daniel Stone , lkml , Keith Packard Subject: Re: State of Linux graphics Cc: xorg@lists.freedesktop.org In-Reply-To: <1125464500.8730.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <9e47339105083009037c24f6de@mail.gmail.com> <1125457860.8730.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> <9e473391050830215013494495@mail.gmail.com> <1125464500.8730.68.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Before you shut my account off I made you this offer: On 8/31/05, Jon Smirl wrote: > Quit being a pain and write a response to the article if you don't > like it. Censorship is not the answer. Open debate in a public format > is the correct response. If you want me to I'll add your reponse to > the end of the article. I will still include your response if you want to write one. On 8/31/05, Daniel Stone wrote: > On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:50 -0400, Jon Smirl wrote: > > On 8/30/05, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > 'As a whole, the X.org community barely has enough resources to build a > > > single server. Splitting these resources over many paths only results in > > > piles of half finished projects. I know developers prefer working on > > > whatever interests them, but given the resources available to X.org, > > > this approach will not yield a new server or even a fully-competitive > > > desktop based on the old server in the near term. Maybe it is time for > > > X.org to work out a roadmap for all to follow.' > > > > > > You lose. > > > > Daniel Stone, the administrator of freedesk.org, has just taken it > > upon himself to censor my article on the state of the X server. His > > lame excuse is that I have stopped working the core of Xegl. It > > doesn't seem to matter that I contributed 1,000s of lines of code to > > fd.o that I am continuing to do maintenance on. So much for this being > > a free desktop. > > Sigh. As I explained in the long thread we had in private mail, I have > done several cleanups now on inactive accounts and projects. You are > absolutely not the first, and will not be the last. I have not done > such sweeps for a while, because I have not had time. The realisation > that your account was doing nothing other than hosting an HTML page now > that I have some amount of time to look at fd.o again was enough to spur > me to start a cleanup, and indeed, I am in the process of pinging many > other dormant contributors; many of which have merely stopped working on > X and may return, rather than having posted long statements of > resignation to the list. > > And, as I explained, a simple statement of intent from you that you > intend to resume active development will be enough to justify your > account being renewed. > > (Alternately, if another administrator re-enables your account, I will > not stop this. I'm not the sole admin, not by far ...) > > Possibly impolitic and bad timing, sure. But my intent was not to > censor. > > > Can some else provide a place for me to host the article? > > Is the wiki insufficient? It is currently hosting such insignificant > articles as the 6.9/7.0 release plan, f.e. ... > > -- Jon Smirl jonsmirl@gmail.com