From: Arseniy Krasnov <oxffffaa@gmail.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: Bobby Eshleman <bobby.eshleman@bytedance.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next v4 6/8] virtio/vsock: support dgrams
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:46:26 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f0b6bba-701c-a95d-d326-bb207e319f2a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ppx75eomyyb354knfkwbwin3il2ot7hf5cefwrt6ztpcbc3pps@q736cq5v4bdh>
On 22.06.2023 19:09, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2023 at 11:49:02PM +0300, Arseniy Krasnov wrote:
>> Hello Bobby!
>>
>> On 10.06.2023 03:58, Bobby Eshleman wrote:
>>> This commit adds support for datagrams over virtio/vsock.
>>>
>>> Message boundaries are preserved on a per-skb and per-vq entry basis.
>>
>> I'm a little bit confused about the following case: let vhost sends 4097 bytes
>> datagram to the guest. Guest uses 4096 RX buffers in it's virtio queue, each
>> buffer has attached empty skb to it. Vhost places first 4096 bytes to the first
>> buffer of guests RX queue, and 1 last byte to the second buffer. Now IIUC guest
>> has two skb in it rx queue, and user in guest wants to read data - does it read
>> 4097 bytes, while guest has two skb - 4096 bytes and 1 bytes? In seqpacket there is
>> special marker in header which shows where message ends, and how it works here?
>
> I think the main difference is that DGRAM is not connection-oriented, so
> we don't have a stream and we can't split the packet into 2 (maybe we
> could, but we have no guarantee that the second one for example will be
> not discarded because there is no space).
>
> So I think it is acceptable as a restriction to keep it simple.
Ah, I see, idea is that any "corruptions" of data could be considered as
"DGRAM is not reliable anyway, so that's it" :)
>
> My only doubt is, should we make the RX buffer size configurable,
> instead of always using 4k?
I guess this is useful only for DGRAM usage, when we want to tune buffers
for some specific case - may be for exact length of messages (for example if we have
4096 buffers, while senders wants to send 5000 bytes always by each 'send()' - I think it
will be really strange that reader ALWAYS dequeues 4096 and 4 bytes as two packets).
For stream types of socket I think size of rx buffers is not big deal in most of cases.
Thanks, Arseniy
>
> Thanks,
> Stefano
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-22 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-10 0:58 [PATCH RFC net-next v4 0/8] virtio/vsock: support datagrams Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 1/8] vsock/dgram: generalize recvmsg and drop transport->dgram_dequeue Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-11 20:43 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-06-22 14:51 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 19:23 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-06-22 23:34 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 23:37 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-23 8:14 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 23:25 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 2/8] vsock: refactor transport lookup code Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 14:57 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 3/8] vsock: support multi-transport datagrams Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 15:19 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-23 2:50 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-23 2:59 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-26 14:50 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 4/8] vsock: make vsock bind reusable Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-12 9:49 ` Simon Horman
2023-06-22 23:00 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 15:25 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 23:05 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-23 8:15 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 5/8] virtio/vsock: add VIRTIO_VSOCK_F_DGRAM feature bit Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 15:29 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 23:06 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 6/8] virtio/vsock: support dgrams Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-11 20:49 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-06-22 16:09 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 18:46 ` Arseniy Krasnov [this message]
2023-06-23 4:37 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-26 15:03 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-27 1:19 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-29 12:30 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 16:31 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 7/8] vsock: Add lockless sendmsg() support Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-12 9:53 ` Simon Horman
2023-06-22 22:59 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-22 16:37 ` Stefano Garzarella
2023-06-22 22:57 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-10 0:58 ` [PATCH RFC net-next v4 8/8] tests: add vsock dgram tests Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-11 20:54 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-06-22 23:16 ` Bobby Eshleman
2023-06-23 18:34 ` Arseniy Krasnov
2023-06-23 6:33 ` Bobby Eshleman
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