From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:36:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:36:17 -0400 Received: from ncc1701.cistron.net ([195.64.68.38]:27399 "EHLO ncc1701.cistron.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:36:12 -0400 From: miquels@cistron-office.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg) Subject: Re: Cosmetic JFFS patch. Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:36:11 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Cistron Internet Services B.V. Message-ID: <9hfter$9e7$1@ncc1701.cistron.net> In-Reply-To: <20010628131641.5e10ecca.reynolds@redhat.com> X-Trace: ncc1701.cistron.net 993753371 9671 195.64.65.67 (28 Jun 2001 18:36:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cistron.nl X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test75 (Feb 13, 2001) Originator: miquels@cistron-office.nl (Miquel van Smoorenburg) To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In article <20010628131641.5e10ecca.reynolds@redhat.com>, Tommy Reynolds wrote: >Linus Torvalds was pleased to say: > >> If they are shut off, then where's the drumming? Because if people start >> making copyright printk's normal, I will make "quiet" the default. > >Amen. This is like editing a program to remove the "harmless" compiler warning >messages. If I don't get a useless message, I don't have to decide to ignore >it. Describing what's happening is OK; don't gush. Yep - a driver should print out that it loaded and what hardware it found. Nothing else. You know what I hate? Debugging stuff like BIOS-e820, zone messages, dentry|buffer|page-cache hash table entries, CPU: Before vendor init, CPU: After vendor init, etc etc, PCI: Probing PCI hardware, ip_conntrack (256 buckets, 2048 max), the complete APIC tables, etc That's stuff that noone cares about. If the system fails to boot boot it with a debug flag. If it does boot, _fine_. Mike.