From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why Plan 9 C compilers don't have asm("")
Date: 4 Jul 2001 01:03:13 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9huik1$grm$1@cesium.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200107040337.XAA00376@smarty.smart.net> <20010703233605.A1244@zalem.puupuu.org> <20010704002436.C1294@ftsoj.fsmlabs.com>
Followup to: <20010704002436.C1294@ftsoj.fsmlabs.com>
By author: Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com>
In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel
>
> There isn't such a crippling difference between straight-line and code with
> unconditional branches in it with modern processors. In fact, there's very
> little measurable difference.
>
> If you're looking for something to blame hurd performance on I'd suggest
> the entire design of Mach, not inline asm vs procedure calls. Tossing a
> few context switches into calls is a lot more expensive.
>
That's not where the bulk of the penalty of a function call comes in
(and it's a call/return, not an unconditional branch.) The penalty
comes in because of the additional need to obey the calling
convention, and from the icache discontinuity.
Not to mention that certain things simply cannot be done that way.
-hpa
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-07-04 8:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-07-04 3:37 Why Plan 9 C compilers don't have asm("") Rick Hohensee
2001-07-04 3:36 ` Olivier Galibert
2001-07-04 6:24 ` Cort Dougan
2001-07-04 8:03 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2001-07-04 17:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-06 8:38 ` Cort Dougan
2001-07-06 11:43 ` David S. Miller
2001-07-06 18:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-06 20:02 ` Cort Dougan
2001-07-08 21:55 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-07-08 22:28 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-08 22:29 ` David S. Miller
2001-07-09 1:22 ` Johan Kullstam
2001-07-21 22:10 ` Richard Henderson
2001-07-22 3:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-22 3:59 ` Mike Castle
2001-07-22 6:49 ` Richard Henderson
2001-07-22 7:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-22 15:53 ` Richard Henderson
2001-07-22 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-04 7:15 ` pazke
2001-07-04 17:32 ` Don't feed the trooll [offtopic] " Ben LaHaise
2001-07-05 1:02 ` Michael Meissner
2001-07-05 1:54 ` Rick Hohensee
2001-07-05 16:54 ` Michael Meissner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-07-04 10:10 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-05 3:26 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-06 17:24 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-06 23:54 ` David S. Miller
2001-07-07 0:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-07-07 0:37 ` David S. Miller
2001-07-07 6:16 Rick Hohensee
[not found] <mailman.994629840.17424.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2001-07-09 0:08 ` Pete Zaitcev
2001-07-09 0:28 ` Victor Yodaiken
2001-07-09 3:03 Rick Hohensee
2001-07-23 4:39 Rick Hohensee
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