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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 07/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for freezing mappings
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2026 13:15:56 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9huz4ih286b7.fsf@tarunix.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEvNRgHvBTKaG4G5J=sMFGYepEnOFaeCBtjkzN6xmGtZ+o6XxA@mail.gmail.com>
Ackerley Tng <ackerleytng@google.com> writes:
> Tarun Sahu <tarunsahu@google.com> writes:
>
>> Introduce kvm_gmem_freeze() to freeze a guest_memfd inode's mapping,
>> which prevents fallocate() operations and new page fault allocations
>> during preservation.
>>
>> Use a global SRCU (`kvm_gmem_freeze_srcu`) to synchronize freeze state
>> checkers without incurring per-fault locking overhead or risking per-CPU
>> memory exhaustion (as per-CPU structure not counted in cgroup) from
>> per-inode SRCU structures by faulty/compromised VMM.
>>
>
> I wonder if everything to do with freezing should be gated behind
> CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE_GUEST_MEMFD. What do people think?
Right now, Only liveupdate is the usecase. There was a discussion
around the future usecase when IOMMU FD can use few pages from
guest_memfd and will have to prevent punch_hole operation. But
that will also avoid new faults. So freezing is not the solution here.
A SEAL type solution like in memfd can be explored later. But this
is very far in future so Plenty of time to discuss more ideas.
On gating the freeze across CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE_GUEST_MEMFD sounds good
Idea. As in future, there is a plan to remove the freeze at all from
the preservation path. Before LIVEUPDATE, there was no usecase and in
future, that usecase will also be gone. So gating it against the config
makes sense.
Would love to know what do people think?
~Tarun
>
>> Signed-off-by: Tarun Sahu <tarunsahu@google.com>
>>
>> [...snip...]
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-10 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-28 12:11 [PATCH v4 00/11] liveupdate: kvm: Guest_memfd preservation Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] liveupdate: Add LIVEUPDATE_GUEST_MEMFD config option Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 22:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] KVM: Introduce kvm_create_vm_file() helper Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 17:36 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 10:14 ` tarunsahu
2026-08-10 23:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] KVM: Export kvm_uevent_notify_vm_create() Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] KVM: Track weak reference to vm_file in struct kvm Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 23:23 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] KVM: LUO: Support VM preservation across live updates Tarun Sahu
2026-08-10 23:42 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 11:31 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Move internal definitions to internal header Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:12 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-11 10:31 ` Pratyush Yadav
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for freezing mappings Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 17:46 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:15 ` tarunsahu [this message]
2026-07-30 18:12 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:08 ` tarunsahu
2026-08-10 23:44 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] KVM: guest_memfd: Add support for preservation via LUO Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:16 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:20 ` tarunsahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] docs: liveupdate: Add documentation for VM and guest_memfd preservation Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] KVM: selftests: Split ____vm_create() and add vm_create_from_fd() Tarun Sahu
2026-07-28 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] KVM: selftests: Add guest_memfd_preservation_test Tarun Sahu
2026-07-30 18:18 ` Ackerley Tng
2026-08-10 13:22 ` tarunsahu
2026-08-11 10:06 ` Pratyush Yadav
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