From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:10:47 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:10:37 -0400 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:43022 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 26 Sep 2001 20:10:24 -0400 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: newsgroup of all mailing lists ? Date: 26 Sep 2001 17:10:37 -0700 Organization: Transmeta Corporation, Santa Clara CA Message-ID: <9otqpt$6q7$1@cesium.transmeta.com> In-Reply-To: <20010927013522.I11046@mea-ext.zmailer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Disclaimer: Not speaking for Transmeta in any way, shape, or form. Copyright: Copyright 2001 H. Peter Anvin - All Rights Reserved Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Followup to: <20010927013522.I11046@mea-ext.zmailer.org> By author: Matti Aarnio In newsgroup: linux.dev.kernel > > It is not trivial. > > We ( postmaster@vger.kernel.org ) don't recommend making bidirectional > gateways -- one mistake there, and the system causes duplication of > messages at the list it is linked with. When we detect that mistake, > the usual court-martial is swift, and feed from VGER to the GW is > removed instantly. > > I think these loop problems were one of the reasons why one of us > (DaveM) strongly opposes list<->news gateways. I am somewhat less > in opposition, and my thinking is that the only way we can have > reliable (hah!) list<->news gw is by running it centralized at VGER. > Modern VGER has muscle for it, but don't expect it to happen any > time soon. > I actually had such a centralized gateway ran at one time. It's still running locally at Transmeta. The only sane way to do this is in a centralized fashion, distributed outbound via the standard news mechanisms. -hpa -- at work, in private! "Unix gives you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot." http://www.zytor.com/~hpa/puzzle.txt